New Series “Jesse James Is A Dead Man” Premieres May 31.

jj1Custom Builder Jesse James takes on the role of a modern-day daredevil in “Jesse James Is A Dead Man,” a new, original weekly series on Spike TV premiering on Sunday, May 31 (10:00 – 11:00 PM, ET/PT). Each episode follows James as he readies himself for a different death-defying (motorcycle only?) challenge he has always wanted to face and beat.  Preparing for the risky challenge can often be as dangerous as the challenge itself as he endures a battery of tests to prepare.  With CGI effects, viewers get a taste of the enormity of the stunt, revealing the physiological stress James’ body will endure. “Our goal was to create a new and distinctive series for Jesse that is unlike anything else on television,” said Sharon Levy, senior vice president of original series for Spike TV. Throughout the season, full episodes will be available on Spike after their on-air debut, along with exclusive behind-the-scenes footage and outtakes.  The site will also feature an exclusive free 3-D online racing game that allows viewers to race Jesse in environments that mirror the episodes.

60 Responses to “New Series “Jesse James Is A Dead Man” Premieres May 31.”

  1. 1 Bobberiz Jan 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    He’s always been a deadman walking, what elas is new?

  2. 2 BadMonkeyMW Jan 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    How’s that Haterade treating you, Bobberiz?

  3. 3 rideout Jan 30th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Say what you want about Jesse the fact is he is the bike industries rock star. Keep a high profile Jesse, our crippled little industry needs you. Fuk the haters.

  4. 4 Bobberiz Jan 30th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Bikers where here before Jesse James and WE will be here long after he is gone.

  5. 5 Boss Hawg Jan 30th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    I am all for the action Jesse brings to the industry and any one here who is not must not really care about our industry.

  6. 6 Bobberiz Jan 30th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    You all sound like Billy Lane Clones!And by the way Boss Hawg just what part of the industry are you involved in?

  7. 7 Conrad Jan 30th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Boss Hawg is actually a very big name in OUR industry. Trust me on that. Who the fuck are you?

    More power to you Jesse, maybe this can bring some life back into the industry. Ill have to swing into Austin here shortly and go see if his Rod Shop has some preview footage I can see!!

    Boss Hawg,
    Dont worry about him. He apparently isnt part of the industry and doesnt pay attention to the Blog enough to know who is who on here.

    Party On


  8. 8 Handhifter Jan 30th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Conrad. I am sure Cyril knows if Jesse reads him. Ask him. Jesse will not sell motorcycles via his new show. Interested only in selling himself for big dollars. Nothing wrong with it.

  9. 9 Conrad Jan 30th, 2009 at 10:30 pm


    Yea, Jesse wants to sell himsellf and his name of course. But I bet money some bikes will sell due to him being on tv as well. WCC will speed up soon and die out just as fast.

    Jesse Does read this, I bet 😉

  10. 10 Nicker Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Well as a ROF (Retired Old Fart) i’ve not got a dog in this hunt.
    However, someone has to say it.

    If what JJ want’s is to “sell himself,”….. that’s one thing….. But….

    Exactly how’s that translates into “bringing action into the industry”….?
    Looks more like a “Hail Mary Pass” than a good business proposition.

    (“Industry” or “Sideshow”)


  11. 11 Steve Carr Jan 31st, 2009 at 1:24 am

    Hey People,

    I am not a smart man, but let me tell you what, if any one of you would have done what Jesse did, and had the ideas he had when he had em’, we would have all traded places with him. If wasnt for Jesse, the industry would not have gone as far as it did in the past years.

    I admire Jesse and wish him all the best.

    Thanks Jesse

    Steve Carr

  12. 12 Steve Carr Jan 31st, 2009 at 1:37 am

    Yeah! Bitches…………….

  13. 13 Conrad Jan 31st, 2009 at 3:12 am

    Steve Carr,
    AMEN, I agree completely and I can tell you what “tv stars” pretty much turned our industry into T-Shirt sales instead of bikes sales too.

  14. 14 alan Jan 31st, 2009 at 9:35 am

    I admire Jesse and wish him all the best.
    in this fucking industry he’s one of the best with arlen ness
    they make everybody dreaming and they are what elvis was for the rocknroll


  15. 15 Karen Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Bobberiz ,
    jESSE jAMES was here in the old west days. No motorcyles back then. Get your shit right.

  16. 16 just my opinion Jan 31st, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Don’t know why some of you get so wound up over this. I think we can all agree that Jesse did get the TV bike stuff started with his show. but did that turn our industry one way or the other. Not so sure it had that big of impact. I was going to rallys long before Jesse was famous and there was always bikers wearing black Harley T-Shirts so he didn’t start that. Motorcycle T-Shirts have been around long before him. And guy’s like Arlen Ness, dave perowitz , Donny Smith, Cyril Huze and many many more were building custom bikes long before Jesse so he did not start that either. Any one that has been around this business long enough knows that if Jesse is in or out of this industry really don’t matter in the long run, now that being said, i think you do have to give him credit for what he has acomplished in his life, he went from nothing to being famous and very wealthy and that is not easy. That takes brains and talent So for that i do give him a lot of credit. His shows have always been entertaining and I am sure this one will be too.

  17. 17 Greg Jan 31st, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Little known story. One segment of the 1st Chopper Mania tv show was shot by Hugh King in Daytona during bike week. I was there. Jesse & Cyril were displaying side by side on beach street. At the time all Jesse’s bikes on his display were painted orange. King needed more bikes. He shot on film some of Cyril’s bikes. They appear discreetly a few seconds during Jesse’s show Chopper Mania 1. intermissions. Builders friendship. (hope that none are upset that i reveal this story). There are a lot of good builders famous or unknown, starving, just making a decent living or making a lot of money. For bikers it should not matter. They all contribute to the custom scene in one way or the other. Moneywise, some succeed a little bit or a lot more because they have the intelligence to diversify their motorcycle passion in areas where it may be easier to make money. That’s fine with me. I notice that in a different way, but somewhat the same, both went the digital. route. Cyril as an internet publisher,, 1esse as a tv producer, but still around motorcycles. It helps the industry. Better have them. .

  18. 18 Tim Shaw Jan 31st, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    THE FATHERS: Perewitz, Ness, Kennedy, James, Huze, Smith, Simms, Simpson and a few others. It turned bad when the OCC clowns arrived in our living rooms…

  19. 19 mike Jan 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    jesse james,,billy lane,,,, Indian larry,,( R I P ) some of the best,,they brought to where it is today,,we all need them,,so,,stop your crying,,unless you can do better,,

  20. 20 Boss Hawg Jan 31st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Conrad…Thanks for the positive plug. I will not bother with exchanging non-voice conjectures with Booberizwho as he leaps upon his rice-rocket vroom vroom vroom? lmfao

    However, I will state for the record that I manufacture custom production and one off motorcycle chassis kits (Bobberizwho…that would be frames, swingarms, tanks, fenders, and some billet parts), custom choppers, prostreet and bobber motorcycles and have a World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI…Yes I am a real motorcycle manufacturer). Nuff said cause this Cyril’s site.

    Ride on Jesse James and let the Outlaw carry forward.

    Movin on Brothers and Sisters.

    Boss Hawg

  21. 21 Rock Star Jan 31st, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    when he’s making the show, I’m making his wife

  22. 22 Nicker Jan 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Look, “… what Jesse did…” isn’t the issue.

    The issue simply is, does what he proposes now have a positive effect on an industry that is already under pressure…???

    Life isn’t a popularity contest, neither is business.


  23. 23 gravey Jan 31st, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    who really cares what he does. i won’t be raceing home to watch this. just like all those other shows, OCC is one.

  24. 24 karend6656 Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Sorry I have to say something. Bobberiz , you don’t even know who Boss Hawg is. That’s the first clue you should shut up. Second, the industry is fading out due to a bad economy, maybe, just maybe, if Jesse has a show again, it just might, who knows, get people interested in buying factory and after market stuff. And OCC doesn’t get to be included in anything related to being a biker! God they are like the old T.V. show the Adams Family…

    And Rock Star, Doing his wife? Like Sandra Bulock would even ………

  25. 25 James (Kiwi) Feb 1st, 2009 at 1:17 am

    I hope he does well,I imported the History of the Chopper DVD.He does really care!!.It shows in the doco, I have watched it 4 tmes and picked up something new every time.I do not like monster garage but we all have different tastes(Thank Fuck)
    JJ is a positive influence and YOUNG people seem to like him, which is sooo important if motorcycles are to survive.

    I see too many negative tossers feeling sorry for themselves, making shallow sad comments.
    Some, just cannot make a positive comment.If they were told to only make positive comments 90% of their conversation and thoughts would be deleted.
    Imagine living and breathing in such a Toxic existance,are they ever happy unless complaining or pulling someone elses positive comments to bits.

    Shit makes ya feel sad for the fuckers……..well…maybe not


  26. 26 James (Kiwi) Feb 1st, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Boss Hawg is totaly, 100% on with his comments.
    Just a pity that people do not listen to wise heads,It is times like these that experiance is worth so much.


  27. 27 Conrad Feb 1st, 2009 at 2:30 am

    Did we scare Bobberiz off?

  28. 28 T Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:16 am

    There’s always two types of perspectives on this site.
    A lot of you are SALESMEN.
    It’s nice you all grew up weaned on 80 weight and can recite the 100 years of HD blindfolded.
    Bottom line you make a living selling motorcycles ( I am jealous)
    Regardless of your love for Bikes ( not to be confused with jap bikes) most of you have a different agenda than the average rider.

    Then there are guys like myself and Bobberiz. Two rambling old F**ks that are probably tired of seeing packs of “Wild Hogs” around every corner.. “Wild Hogs” are good for your business , not mine.
    They raise my insurance rate’s because they don’t know how to ride. Personally I would rather be on the road with a few RIDERS (jap or what not) instead of way to many Sunshine Actors.

    “Boss Hawg,
    Dont worry about him. He apparently isnt part of the industry and doesnt pay attention to the Blog enough to know who is who on here.”

    I didn’t know there was a pecking order here.
    And just for the record. I always thought Jesse James wore his balls on everyone else’s shirt. He might be good for business, but he aint good for Biking…

  29. 29 Crash Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Hey T,
    Your proctologist just called…your results are in.

  30. 30 Boss Hawg Feb 1st, 2009 at 11:03 am

    T …. There is no pecking order here to my knowledge. As for Jesse James, if you don’t like him that is fine, too. Since you and Bobberizwho are not happy riders here, I may suggest that you and Bobberizwho fire up your old farm tractors, ride on down to your local coffee shops for a little chat, and check your tractors insurance rates since you are apparently not happy with the chats here on Cyril’s BLOG.

    Boss Hawg

  31. 31 Jeff Nicklus Feb 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Personally ….. I wish Jesse well and I say to him …. be safe my friend.

    Over & Out,


  32. 32 burnout Feb 1st, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Jesse doesn’t HAVE to DO anything! The way the man can work metal is enough for me to respect him. I look forward to the show because he sure seems to be cool under pressure…………….something I strive for publicly and privately! peace

  33. 33 spackler Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Jesse’s new show will not be exclusively motorcycles. There will be bikes but also airplanes, hotrods, off-roading, etc. Jesse is a huge brand and yes his show will promote that brand and WC, just as his earlier shows have. It will sell more bikes, parts and yes tee shirts. It will be good for Jesse and good for WCC and we can all hope it will give the biz and the sport of motorcycling a little juice too.

    Jesse may not be everybody’s cup of tea but he is a talent and a star. And this program will be damn good.

    OCC guys may be doofuses but you cannot deny they gave the business a boost and brought new riders into the fold. How many stick around now, who knows.

    You don’t have to like Jesse’s bikes or OCC’s bikes or their personalities to acknowledge what they have achieved. And I think his West Coast Choppers makes some really nice bikes.

  34. 34 Conrad Feb 1st, 2009 at 11:34 pm


    I think a lot of people in the industry would agree with me when I say OCC fucked a lot of stuff up in our industry. It did not do anything good bike sales wise besides help sell a shitload of t-shirts and crap. I contribute a lot of issues in our industry to them.

  35. 35 James (Kiwi) Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 am

    Occ is the Archie Bunker of motorcylcle comedies, but that is “OK” if you realise that.!!!!!!!!
    I am sure the Teutals know it ,it is just SOME people do not know the difference!!

    And Mr T…. cool hair cut, pity your attitude is not quite as pretty!!
    If you “are” a rambling old fuck that is sad, cause there are a lot of smart,articulate ol Fucks that make clear and logical constructive comments on this blog. And not all sell motorcycl parts or Motorcycles.
    I have to admit I would like to burn all copies of Wild Hawgs, but then in 50years I might be looked back on like the good Reverend Snow who publicaly burned R&R records…!!…maybe not..shit where’s the kero…

    Jesse James is Fucking good for this industry and brings along young people. And that is so critical.Tarnation, we bikers world wide now average between 45-50 years.In 20…. it is all gone.
    You might want to dribble in a rest home that you were the last of the reptiles that slithered out of the 40’s,50’s and 60’s but many others want it to go on and on…and…like a good,,,,,,,,,

    None so blind, than those that cannot see.

    Rock and Roll, James (KIWI)

  36. 36 Conrad Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Rock on James.

    I feel Jesse is a major asset to the industry. OCC? Not so much.

    Jesse puts the REAL biker into the youth of today. The elders already know better and soon the youth will be the elders who know better and the new youth will have their “Jesse” of our industry long after we are all gone. The “biker” will never die, it may evolutionize and turn into different forms with new erotic styles of bikes, but bikers will always be here.

    He isnt here to bring the “biker inside” out to everyone. His main targets ,I feel, is the youth of America. They are the ones who will oneday be building and oneday be riding bikes. I say Rock On Jesse, keep it up. Fuck the rest and let the nay sayers stay jealous.

  37. 37 FatBoy Feb 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Have any of you seen what Jesse’s 2nd wife Janine has been doing with her time? XXX market doing the brothers

  38. 38 Dimitri Feb 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 am

    His second wife (for a short time) is an adult movie actress. Of course, he knew. She was just condemned last week for tax evasion (failing to do her tax returns).

  39. 39 Geno Feb 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 am

    wow groovy
    I hear the first guest on the show is Rodent
    whoo hoo go for it

  40. 40 Crash Feb 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Dimitri wrote; His second wife (for a short time) is an adult movie actress. Of course, he knew. She was just condemned last week for tax evasion (failing to do her tax returns).

    Well B.Hussian Obamas choice for OUR secetrary treasure doesn’t pay his taxs either. What’s the big deal Jesse’s second wife ?

  41. 41 Donny Feb 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 am

    like him or not, he is extremely talented, maybe made a couple of bad decisions. i.e. making his parts in TIAWAN!!

  42. 42 Donny Feb 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 am

    hand made in the L.B.C (lower bowels of china)

  43. 43 Sugar Bear Feb 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    RODENT!!!!!! ……………… is it true????

  44. 44 FatBoy Feb 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I always liked Jesse’s talent and vision. The copper bike was awesome

  45. 45 James (Kiwi) Feb 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Shit did’nt we all dream of marrying a pornstar when we were young.
    He went on and lived the dream…..for a while
    Me I think Sandra Bullock is beautiful and smart.
    He has an evolving taste in Motorcycles and Women.Some of his old school bikes that have apperared in Heavy Duty an Aussie mag reently have been very very good.

    Went to a great little rally called WoodStock in the Weekend but back to work today….there goes reality fucking with my life again..


  46. 46 Kenny Price Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    i have known jesse since he was a teenager. he has always done things his way. i used to give him bent pipe so he could make his own headers for bike projects. he is a self made man from the time he was young. its called personal fortitude which many of us have and what makes a person who they are. all his success was earned, not given to him. he was a poor kid who dug his way from the gutter to be the person he is today. my hat is off to jesse and i wish him all the success in the world. congratulations old buddy.
    your friend,
    kenny price
    samson motorcycle products

  47. 47 Conrad Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Cheers to that Kenny. Hope business is oing well for you.

    Conrad Nicklus

  48. 48 Slag Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Jesse has said that he himself is nothing more than a glorified welder and that is good enough for me. You go Jesse.

  49. 49 Guess again Feb 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    “OCC guys may be doofuses but you cannot deny they gave the business a boost and brought new riders into the fold.”

    All they did was sell T shirts and memorabilia. They didn’t put any butts on seats that wouldn’t have gotten there anyway, perhaps not counting the giveaway bikes. Their magic was bringing the WWF audience to normal motorcycle venues to wait in line for autographs on overpriced apparel.

  50. 50 IntelWeenie Feb 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Jesse is a very talented and driven individual. The OCC bunch- well, we just have to realize that it’s a comedy show with a bunch of folks who just happen to build one off bikes. Emphasis on comedy show.

    That being said, Paul Sr. pulled himself outta the gutter also. He built a million dollar ironworking business and now also has a multi million dollar tee shirt, oops, er, um, bike business.

  51. 51 Marc Mazerolle Feb 2nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Man am I gonna get blasted for this but, whatever happened to “Live and let Live”? JJ is doin’ his thing, Paul Sr. is doin’ his thing, all of us are doin’ our thing. Live and let live, guys and gals. Right?

  52. 52 Nicker Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:59 am


    If what these guys do didn’t have an impact on “The Industry” no one would give a rosy rat’s ass what they did and “live & let live” would be cool.

    HOWEVER, if what they do does have an effect, then it does have an impact.

    On the one hand, they impact you builders who have to make a living selling to the public.

    On the other they impact some on like me who has to put up with the general public who associate me with the moronics portrayed by some of these people (and you all know who they are).

    Even worse ….. are antics which draws more morons into the sport.
    Because, the general public starts to initiate policy to further squash an activity that has been central to my life for decades.

    So, what icons “of the sport” or “of the industry” do in the public eye has direct bearing on all of us
    in a bunch of non trivial ways.

    The issue is how does what they (JJ, OCC, NEss…..etc.) do in the public eye effect us all.
    It aint about friendship it’s about perception.

    IMHO, anywya…….

  53. 53 Jeff Nicklus Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:38 am


    Early in my motorcycle career I was fortunate enough to have Arlen Ness share some insight with me …… his advice to me was …. “At the end of the day you are what the public perceives you to be.” I have kept those words of wisdom in the forefront of my pea sized brain for many years now. With that wisdom in mind I have always avoided the “raising hell, drinking until up punk on national TV persona” that seems to be what the TV Producers, as well as most Americans, want to believe about anyone who rides a motorcycle. I have turned down four (4) different offers to participate in TV programs now. I refused the offers primarily because I will not abuse my children verbally on TV, or at any other time for that matter, I don’t need to jump up and down, throw tools or threaten the first born of any employees, on national TV, to accomplish a bike build. I was therefore told I “could not be worked with” by the producers! OH WELL!

    The bottom line is, in my humble opinion: “One must be true to themselves” and “At the end of the day you are what the public perceives you to be.”

    Over & Out,


  54. 54 jspfc Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Here is what I think is funny, people come on here and blast the posers for buying big over indulgent bikes and having this be a “fad” and they also blast the media and TV shows for giving builders a bad reputation.

    The same people who blast the posers and media are also concerned about what the guys do on TV because it leaves a perception with the public and this could in turn hurt builders and/or shops sell their products/services.

    In my opinion, these shows, good or bad, is what brought more of the general public and the posers into motorcycles and in turn their money. Yeah a lot of it was in merchandise but there was also a lot in ground up custom builds, customizing bikes, maintenance and parts.(And the demand was evident by all the new shops that opened and at least survived for a couple years.)

    Let’s not kid ourselves; the average joe wrench head didn’t bring in extra money and flood the industry with money. They are the ones who fix it or build it themselves in their garage, living room, porch, etc and know everything about the bike from front to back.

    These same people who are complaining about the posers and TV shows are also complaining now that they are not making any or as much money as they used to and that the industry is heading south real fast.

    So what do these people complaining want? Do you want the “posers” to stick around and spend money as well as have TV shows help give publicity to the industry(any publicity is good publicity right)?

  55. 55 Steve Carr Feb 4th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    I also was given some good advice handed down to me by one Jeff Nicklus That I also took to heart, and will remember for the rest of my life,……… his advice to me was …. “At the end of the day you are what the public perceives you to be.”

    Thanks Jeff

    Lets all rise above the negative comments left on this blog by those that cant,

    and those of us that can will continue to piss those off that cant, Which makes us want to do better

    anyway, so who is the real winner?

    Stay positive and you will find out my friends.

  56. 56 IntelWeenie Feb 4th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    It’s always better to be pissed off than pissed on. Unless of course you’re into that sort of thing……………….

  57. 57 Nicker Feb 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm


    “One must be true to themselves” and “At the end of the day you are what the public perceives you to be…”

    Yep….. that about sums it up nicely.
    It’s subtitle. Ya gotta read it carefully……….



  58. 58 Nicker Feb 5th, 2009 at 3:08 pm


    Well you’ve made some points, but all your issue don’t necessarily follow.
    Simply because we (the biker and builder community) dont’ necessaryly constitute a homogeneous group.
    So ya gotta be more specific about who your talking to.

    “…TV shows help give publicity to the industry(any publicity is good publicity right)?…”

    Not the way i see it.
    Bad publicity createes bad public perception that puts all sorts-a policy and financial pressure on those of us who don’t reap any benefit from that publicity. (insurance, laws, regstration…. etc.).

    “…people come on here and blast the posers …. ”
    “…shows, good or bad, is what brought more of the general public and the posers into motorcycles and in turn their money…”

    While that may well work for those manufacturing “market driven product lines” do you really think there’s any relevence to those who target niche markets (re. custom high end art, vintage, …. etc.)?

    “…Do you want the “posers” to stick around and spend money …”

    Well, here again, it depends on the individual’s business case.
    And it depends on the poser.

    So if ya gotta put up with them, ya suck-it-up and listen to the drivvel.
    If ya don’t ya walk away.
    At the end of the day, how much stupidity your willing to out up with is up to you.

    The point is, there isn’t one easy patt answer.
    BUT………. one thing is certain, stupidity and moronics is bad for all of us, no matter who ya are.


  59. 59 Bobby Feb 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    I’m so glad to see Jesse James on TV again. Builder-celebrities to so much to boost the popularity of all things motorcycle, and that can only benefit all of us “in the industry”. (Did you all know Jesse is also going to be on the next Celebrity Apprentice with the Donald?) The Discovery Channel did so much to boost the popularity of motorcycles, customs, and the talented builders who were on the show. Our industry took a big hit when all those shows- Biker Build Off, Corbin’s Ride on, Build or Bust, Monster Garage, yes even American Chopper and American Thunder were being aired around the clock.. Thanks to Spike, and any other network that wants to keep our industry in the eyes and the minds of the public. It can only help us all sell more of what we sell.

  60. 60 Nicker Feb 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm


    Help me out here……..

    If “…Each episode follows James as he readies himself for a different death-defying (motorcycle only?) challenge he has always wanted to face and beat…”,…. exactly how will that “…only help us all sell more of what we sell….”???

    Isn’t that like saying the Saturday Night Destruction Derby helps sell Custom Cars on Monday….???

    Seriously, some of this thread is sounding more like a 7th grade “who’s-yer-Buddy,” and less about credible business talk.

    Who are the advertisers…???


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