Ducati Desmosedici RR . An Example To Follow.

It must feel very good. The Ducati Desmosedici RR was officially unveiled in June 2006 with the promise that only 1500 will ever been produced. And guess what? They are all sold and first deliveries will begin in January. Now, there is better than this. A long waiting list of people in a bidding war to get a used one at a price higher than the new one. So, I was wondering. Did Harley-Davidson ever thought about releasing one very exclusive edition model every year? And when I say exclusive, I am talking about something really new, from font to rear fender. Not a new paint graphic or a slightly tricked out engine. Something beyound CVO’s models. My feeling is that it would work, create a lot of media buzz, and a used bike selling for more than new just after its release is always excellent for your image. And what about some big dollars added to your bottom line? A group of different Custom Builders every year could work on this with the factory. And if anyone you know gets the exclusive Desmosedici, I want to ride it and report here.   

31 Responses to “Ducati Desmosedici RR . An Example To Follow.”

  1. 1 A 1 CYCLES Dec 27th, 2007 at 9:41 am

    this happens all the time with high end luxury goods…example new g5 jet air craft is 51 million and a used one that is tagged with low hours is 55 million..because to order as new one is a two year wait..it seems people with money just have to have the newest and most limited things…so to say at your next cocktail party that you sold your g3 and now are in a g5 its a conversation starter..and people know you have the latest thing..not unlike our parties where we talk about the latest shifter peg and grips that no one has yet.. people are people no matter what their income is.

  2. 2 Chris Trenz Dec 27th, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Good idea Cyril. Hope that Harley follows your suggestion.

  3. 3 goldiron Dec 27th, 2007 at 1:02 pm


    H-D has probably considered your idea or a similar one. It is very difficult to compare Ducati to Harley-Davidson on this level. Ducati is driven to win on the race tracks against other makes.

    When Harley was unable to accomplish that with their Sportster on a regular and continuing basis, they claimed it was a woman’s bike. When Harley was unable to compete with their other models against other brands in drag racing they formed the All Harley Drag Racing Association. Hard for Harley not to be represented in all winning positions all the time.

    Yes, I am possibly sounding unfair to Harley. Not because Harley can’t do it, rather, because they won’t or haven’t to this point in time. Before all of the HOG loyalists go nuts about a pasta rocket, Ducati makes a retro bike called the SportClassic. Ducati understands motorcycling on many levels. Harley does not permit their customers as many choices. Ducati is able to offer their customer a bike that weighs significantly less than 400lbs with more than 180 horsepower with a trellis frame wrapped in aerodynamic carbon fiber panels. Harley offers their customer a bike that weighs twice as much with an engine that produces half as much on a retro frame wrapped in another paint scheme behind a batwing fairing that holds the latest version of their stereo.

    I am so very glad that you stated that the design and the bike should be from the ground up. Otherwise it would be virtually and nauseatingly more of the same.

    More than custom builders, you will also need custom engineering. I’d be more than happy to see you head up or be part of a team that would produce a special bike like this, Cyril.

  4. 4 Moto Corsa Dec 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pm

    Ducati desmosedici d16rr is a bargain considering the level of performance/technology/racing lineage.

    Harley has no performance/technology/racing lineage, so they must keep selling bloated chrome nostalgia artifacts.

  5. 5 Nicker Dec 27th, 2007 at 9:30 pm


    “…so very glad that you stated that the design and the bike should be from the ground up…”

    “…Harley has no performance/technology/racing lineage…”

    Wasn’t the V-Rod “ground-up” and wasn’t it a high tech Porsche design…???

    And isn’t the new Buel a ground-up, high tech design…?

    Sounds to me like HD is caught in a “Gallow dilemma.” That is, no matter the wine Ernest & Julio produce today, they’ll always be associated with gallon twist-of top wines of the past.

    And so, no matter what HD tries to produce today, they’ll always be associated with their past products.

    Moreover, their customer base seem to expect that, so their damned if they do and damned if they don’t. A “loose-loose” situation.


  6. 6 gustian Dec 27th, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    There you all make a point,

    My opinion…? Harley may be called lucky to have so many loyalists all over the world, (even in spaghetti-land)

    That’s also why you master-builders are so popular. Who else can get us goosebumps in our neck by the look at another creation of one off you…….

    Keep on the good work, if the factory doesn’t have the fantasy (or the guts), you have!

  7. 7 goldiron Dec 27th, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Actually, Kawasaki was negotiating for the Porsche designed bike and that motivated H-D to finally do something with it.

    Buell is a stepchild possession of Harley Davidson and is not a Harley as such. Just as their travel trailer and golf cart business is not really considered to be a Harley unless you see their technology as similar.

  8. 8 hoyt Dec 28th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Goldiron & Nicker have good points…

    Goldiron – “Not because Harley can’t do it, rather, because they won’t or haven’t to this point in time….
    Harley does not permit their customers as many choices.”

    Nicker – “Sounds to me like HD is caught in a “Gallow dilemma.” That is, no matter the wine Ernest & Julio produce today, they’ll always be associated with gallon twist-of top wines of the past….

    And so, no matter what HD tries to produce today, they’ll always be associated with their past products.”

    HD can evolve & refute both of those sentiments by simply branching out. It will be good for the company’s continued prosperity. The HD “faithful” should not be alarmed like they were when the VRod appeared, but rather support diversified models that may very well allow HD to produce the cool nostalgic models for decades to come.

    The V-Roehr sportbike is not a Desmosedici by any stretch, but it is also not $72,000. It is, however, a very cool bike that uses a super-charged Revolution engine for about $45k.

    Super-charged from the factory….now that is a cool differentiating factor not seen on many manufactured bikes.


  9. 9 goldiron Dec 28th, 2007 at 6:20 pm


    The Roehr is an interesting bike.

    The 180 hp twin still must compete with the other bikes that have a similar power to weight ratio and that would include the Ducati 1098R at less than half the price without the additional heat or maintenance of a supercharger. Another choice might be the MV Agusta F4-R 312 for a few dollars more at 183 hp. Again, a normally aspirated bike.

    I understand the value of a limited production bike and the inherent maintenance challenges that can accompany them.

    My wish for Harley-Davidson is for great success as an American motorcycle company. Not for a clothing company that sells relic trinkets, rather, for a company that is strong and innovative and does not betray it’s customers with the old corporate shuffle that they have been dancing for the last forty years.

  10. 10 hoyt Dec 29th, 2007 at 12:40 am

    I’m equally frustrated with the lack of diversity of American-made motorcycles. We have the engineering talent & resources, yet we only produce cruisers in how many varieties? Most of all, there is a huge market for an American-made racer that is competitive on the track with a price tag comparable to a 1098.

    Buell needs to build the Rotax engine in the States and work on styling aesthetics to truly fill the above, gaping market gap.

    What model can HD rely on as market trends shift and the need to open new markets arise?

  11. 11 goldiron Dec 29th, 2007 at 11:51 am

    “What model can HD rely on as market trends shift and the need to open new markets arise?”

    Interesting question, hoyt.

    I am pretty certain that model is yet to be built. If you are referring to a model from their current line up that should be saved as possibly a tribute to a bygone era, I would say that it should most probably be the Road King. All of the other accessories can be added to it and some of the less desirable features can be removed from it. The RK seemingly is the most basic and pure platform for all the good things H-D ever had.

    The FXR used to be a good bike. They changed it and it doesn’t ride worth a damn any more.

    Whatever they save or go with, they should cut the weight on them severely and up the power on them severely.

    Yeah, the women and the Sportster. I like seeing women riding but I surely think that they could pick a better bike than the Sporty and most of them that have put in any amount of saddle time realize that and change from it, too.

    The V-Rod was a great starting point for the public venture into liquid cooled Harleys but they severely dropped the ball with it. The company treated it as a stepchild and so did the public. Here is a bike that they tried to include in the old time image and that marketing was a turn off to many folks. That particular marketing came across as an unpalatable lie. Sure, they tried to attach a “bad ass” image to it but it had no street cred for the image. Just another bike with a background snicker that it wasn’t really a Harley. That imagery can be reversed but not without a well planned and well funded campaign.

    Speaking of well funded, the major reason that Harley does not sell more bikes is the price. A hHarley always seems like you don’t get your money’s worth and you always have to add something (more money) to it. Many other bikes that have either cloned the Cruiser or that have other models in the line up seemingly have grasped that knowledge and stepped right up.

    With the middle class having been reduced to rubble financially, the price of the Harley has kept many people riding other brands. Yeah, they know it’s not a Harley and they no longer care. They just want to ride.

  12. 12 hoyt Dec 30th, 2007 at 12:52 am

    I was thinking the model(s) does not yet exist in terms of the current market.

    As the baby boom generation fades from riding (or at least buying new bikes), much of the next wave of riders may not find anything from the HD catalogue that entices them.

  13. 13 Jim Gianatsis Jan 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    You problably don’t remember it because most Harley guys don’t follow roadracing, but Harley DID just what Cyril suggests back in 1994 with their exotic VR1000 Superbike. The factory raced it in AMA Superbike (never winning) for about 4 years with riders Doug Chandler and Miguel Dumahel, who won later won National Championships on Japanese bikes.

    The Harly VR1000 V-twin 1000cc DOHC 4-valve watercooled engine was susposedly designed by Porsche so it was competitive to start, but then it was turned over to Harley to produce, develop and race and it went downhill from there. As a production superbike, susposedly 100 road going examples were built and I believe a few were bought by a couple of Harly delaers who attempted to race them unsuccessfully (just like that current factory Buell 1000cc Roadracer has proved to be a failure). Now the latest Buell “Superbike” use a n engine sourced from Rotax in Australia.

    If Harley had been successful with the VR1000 winning races, they might have released it in full production, but priced around $50,000 for the limited edition race bike against a winning Japanese Superbike that could be built for $20,000, it would not have sold well.
    Sometimes you can find them for sale, but they hardly bring what they cost initially.

    The other problem Harley has is their dealers could not have serviced the bike. Going for stone age air-cooled pushrods to watercooled OHC 4 valves before the V-Rod, whould have been a nightmare. The race bikes were also highly unreliable and usually breaking every race. Imaging the warranty claims! Harley wiselys got out of the roadracing business. And the Buell line remains remains a joke compared to the world market.

    Even today with Harley sponsoring vance & Hines to drag race their V-Rod, if you remember the engine blew up every race for the first 1-2 years unril Vance & Hines eventualy redesigned their race motor from billet from ground up. There is not one part in the V&H motor from a production V-Rod.

    History has shown that since WWII that the Harley Davidson Motor Company is incabable of designing and building anything that is exclusive, unique, exciting and successessful on their own.

    Jim Gianatsis

  14. 14 Cyril Jan 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Good analysis, Jim. I remember very well going with friends see the VR 1000 being raced by Miguel Duhamel. Harley was leading during the first 3 to 5 laps then was breaking down. Almost guaranteed. When I was suggesting an exclusive limited edition, I was not necessarily thinking of a racing or sport bike. Could be a street bike that Harley dealers would know how to maintain. Maybe a bike emphasizing exclusive look rather than extreme performance

  15. 15 DAIN GINGERELLI Jan 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    For the most part I agree with many of the comments regarding H-D’s past ventures (VR1000, current Pro Stock drag bike, etc.), but everyone seems to be forgetting one of the most successful race bike designs in history–the XR750. Of course, many people today don’t appreciate the XR750’s place in history because few motorcycle enthusiasts today follow professional flattrack racing, what used to be known as the AMA Grand National Championship/Camel Pro Series. Two major factors led to its lost status: first the AMA which over the past decade or so has all but neglected flattrack racing; second, the major motorcycle manufacturers (Honda, et al–even Ducati) have not developed race bikes to support the series. That’s too bad because some of the best racing in America–even the world–has taken place on those gritty, dusty oval dirt tracks that comprised the GN/Camel Pro Series. I know because for about 15 years I reported on the racing for national magazines such as Hot Bike and Cycle Guide. The riders were fierce competitors, and the racing on the tracks was always close. I’m not biased in my opinons, either– I spent 13 years road racing, and for the first few years as a racer I looked down my nose at the dirt-track guys. But after attending my first flattrack event–the 1973 Ascot Half-Mile–I changed my mind about them, and the more I learned about the sport, the more I appreciated the technology that went into it.

    Sadly, the Grand National flattrack series today is more of a regional series at best–there are no West Coast events, and the number of races is nearly half of what it was 20 years ago. Flattrack racing may lack the glamour of Moto GP or Superbike racing, but in terms of value for the dollar for the spectator, it can’t be beat. Today’s generation of motorcycle fans have been cheated out of an American icon. I’m glad I got to watch racing greats like Gene Romero, Gary Scott, Kenny Roberts, Rex Beauchamp, Scott Parker, Bubba Shobert, and my hero, Gary Nixon, slide their steel shoes on some of the best race tracks in the world.

    Dain Gingerelli

  16. 16 Paul Jan 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Am I missing something here? Exactly what is it that someone buys when they purchase a Harley Davidson? Or a Ducati for that matter? Can you imagine Ducati successfully selling a Harley styled cruiser any more than you can imagine Harley selling a Superbike style street racer? The point is that Ducati means performance every bit as much as Harley means cruiser. When you buy Harley you buy the heritage, the history and the “rebel” image of Harley Davidson. They have over 100 years of heritage attached to their brand that they have carefully cultivated and revived since almost disappearing as a result of the AMF days – when they incidentally did exactly what is being proposed here; that is, tried to extend their brand into other markets. It is an absolute truism of marketing that the minute your brand becomes confused as to exactly what you stand for, you loose market share. Irrespective of how many “me-too” manufacturers offer cruiser style bikes, Harley still holds that category on their own. Yes, people buy metric cruisers, but they are bought, I suspect, on price. A poor man’s Harley if you will. But even among metric buyers, HD still holds the aspirational lead for cruisers. You need to look at the whole package when you buy HD. You’re buying a history, an implied attitude and a marque that represents the pinnacle of this market segment. Does HD have faults? Hell yes!! But isn’t that part of the charm? The whole HD package is perhaps the strongest brand in the world – you don’t see Coca Cola or Honda tattooed on people. Harley has a long history of trying to introduce new and different market segments to their lineup with more failures than successes. They still have some lessons to learn – the Accura is built by Honda but marketed under a different brand. Take a look at the Lexus and who owns/builds it. Harley is Harley and all it represents. It is what it is. People buy it and always will for what the brand represents. If they build a new “category” of motorcycle that doesn’t fit people’s existing perception of what a Harley is, consign it to the scrap heap. People won’t buy it because it isn’t what they perceive to be a “real” Harley. The “real” Harleys still outsell – by an incredible margin – the Buell or the V-Rod, irrespective of the latters’ technical superiority. If you want the ultimate sport bike, you buy Ducati or MV Augusta (I have both by the way). If you want the ultimate cruiser you buy HD (which I also have). If you want the ultimate custom, you buy Cyril Huze (working on that one!!).


  17. 17 Carl Jan 1st, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Excellent comment,Paul. Nothing to add.

  18. 18 David Jan 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Hello, Is everyboy asleep out there!!! It hasn’t been that long ago when evey model of a Harley-Davidson was the SPECIAL.You could buy a new one(after a year on a waiting list)Ride it for a Year and then you had your choice of buyer’s waiting to Pay you more than you paid for the bike brand new at inflated dealer prices!!!My gosh where have the Good Ole Days GONE!!!

  19. 19 Nicker Jan 2nd, 2008 at 1:44 am

    Paul poses a good question. It may not be popular, but i’ll give ya my perspective.

    “… Exactly what is it that someone buys when they purchase a Harley Davidson? Or a Ducati for that matter?…”

    For the most part, Ducati riders (i’ve come across) in our area ware custom leathers and knee pads. Why? Not because they’re all FIM or AMA caliber riders, but because most want to be associated-with/part-of the motorsport scene.

    And their HD (or other V-twin) counterparts ware black leather chaps, vests, and insignias that masquerades as “colors.” I’ve talked to enough of these folks to know that the don’t mind any allusion of an association with the more “notorious” (as Goldi puts it) “… “bad ass” image …” elements.

    Now, regardless of the economics, the V-twin market demographic is largely populated by the latter. Around here these groups are prolific, while groups of leather clad “cafe racers” Ducati riders are relatively few.

    So, there is the market force around which HD has structured its contemporary business model. In the early 1960’s the only HD dealer in our area (working out of a converted barn) wouldn’t even sell you parts if you were wearing colors or riding a chop. But by the time i got back from Vietnam they had a brand new building and were selling new Sportsters with extended front ends and 21 inch front wheels.

    HD didn’t create the market, it was almost forced on them. It was created by the B-rated movies that glamorized the “bad old days.” And it was fueled by a buying public that had no real interest in motorcycles beyond “that image.”

    I’ve not seen a HD “Motor Maid” club riding in a parade since the later 1950’s.

    This latest interest in baggers may well be a move back toward that more historic HD demographic. We called-em “dressers” and i can still remember saying i’d never own one (finally got my first bags in 1985 and never took-em off).

    It may well be that the “tough times” that HD is experiencing is, at least in part, due to this retrenchment back to their core demographic. And their business model simple has to make the appropriate adjustment.

    That shift could be tough on the OCC types because it will leave them without much of a customer base.

    But, as the Guggenheim demonstrated, motorcycles can also be an art form. And as art, scooters will have to unique and very high quality (not production commodities). As i see it, the true “custom builders” like Cyril have a transitioned into the Art Market. These are one-off, hand crafted pieces. Each with it’s own character and style.

    So, Cyril, when you ask
    “…Did Harley-Davidson ever think about releasing one very exclusive edition model every year?…”

    If they had and did it wouldn’t restore their post Vietnam market share. And it wouldn’t be based on the Road King because that’s a “commodity,” IMHO anyway.
    Having said that, the Road King is obviously the basis of their new (smaller) market, based on very loyal and stable demographic (real motorcyclists).

    “…Harley is Harley and all it represents. It is what it is…”

    Yap, and a DuoGlide PanHead is a beautiful thing… with or without bags.

    “…Harley Davidson Motor Company is incabable of designing and building anything that is exclusive…”

    Doesn’t look to me like they have to…… what would be the point?


  20. 20 hoyt Jan 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 am

    Flat track racing is sorely missed in many ways. One way it will progressively be missed is in road racing. The road racers that are good marketing material for both road racing & flat track racing are the racers that know how to steer into corners by sliding the rear wheel. This wild style of riding is honed during their flat track days. There are other riders that have this skill, but it seems flat track racers (who move to road racing) do it most often and with the best style points.

    I’ve read people proposing the brilliant idea of bringing back the the crown championship with flat track being part of the requirement.

    Another sad point about the demise of the flat track racing in the States is that HD hasn’t introduced the new Street Tracker in the States but they did in Europe !

    Regarding a different topic that was brought up in later posts after Dain’s comment –

    A company not only can diversify and add models without diluting their brand image, but they SHOULD pursue a diverse model lineup. No doubt it is difficult, but a challenge that must be undertaken in order to adjust to changing markets and open new markets.

    Performance Bike (PB) magazine has a good article about what the next generation will be riding. It looks at it mainly from a sport-oriented perspective, but it is kind of frightening if you consider it from the cruiser bike perspective which is mainly entrenched in vintage styling….

    The energy paradigm will change in most of our lifetimes. Will the style of a Road King be well-matched with the new power source? Or will you be “buzzing” along and pitifully trying to hold onto the Road King look? The possible buzz/hum of the new power sources doesn’t go well with the vintage style of HD. All motorcycle OEMs (and moto consumers) will face this challenge, but HD seems most vulnerable to this paradigm shift.

    The next 30-50 years will be a wild ride – a change of this magnitude has not been seen since the Industrial Revolution began.

  21. 21 hoyt Jan 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 am

    …and I hope the new fuel/energy source will offer a sound similar to the sound burnt petro emits.

    Perhaps the sound of algae-based fuel will be on par?

  22. 22 Nicker Jan 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    “… about what the next generation will be riding. It looks at it mainly from a sport-oriented perspective…”

    Well, as i recall, HD has a history of trying sports bikes. They had a K-model sporty before the OHV version. They dressed a sporty up as a cafe racer. They tried selling small light singles (Hummer and Aermacchi Sprint). They put two front cylinder heads on a sporty to create a streetracker….. etc.

    There has to be a reason why most of this stuff didn’t work.

    In their latest attempt they’re offering a credible Rotax motored sports bike.
    Any bets on it’s marketability….????


  23. 23 hoyt Jan 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    The new Buell possesses too much function-over-form to reach its true market potential. I saw it in person and was disappointed.

    I really want to like this motorcycle because the function potential is huge (great torque, hp, geometry, etc.). Motorcycles (as most of you know on this forum) ARE about form, too – something most Italians and the Yamaha R1 are executing upon in terms of sport bikes.

    To stress function-over-form (without some sense of aesthetic form) is not enough. The Firebolt fairing is great. A unique & original style that still holds (and it isn’t too wide).

    The 1125R fairing needs work, and eventually the engine needs to be built in the States to reach its market potential. (IMO)

  24. 24 hoyt Jan 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Nicker – based on your list, it seems logical that HD needs to try harder when they set out to build a bike in the sports/cafe categories. It’s not as though there is a shortage of designers & engineers in this country that would jump at the opportunity if HD showed adequate desire/funding to compete in that space. To me, the current 1125R is bound to make your list of bikes-not-reaching-their-market-potential for its own reasons. That is not to say the bikes you mentioned (or the 1125R) aren’t any good.

    The Firebolt is great for its motor, handling, and good looks. Europeans seem to like the XB platform. I saw dozens in one locale of northern Italy 2 years ago. It will be interesting to see what happens with the 1125R. I hope they re-work the look of the fairing.

  25. 25 Nicker Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Right, the front of the fairing has that “large mouth bass” look….:-(

    But, my point all along has been that regardless of what HD turns out, their current market is based on their air cooled V-twin. And the V-rod experience seems to demonstrate that a technology shift doesn’t interest their customer base.

    The only scenario that might broaden their market appeal would be a competitive FIM platform (without using the rule book to gain an advantage).

    But i doubt they could duplicate the Ducati experience. For one thing, that would require some major design changes in their motor (V angle widening and maybe OHC…etc.). For another, the cash infusion that allowed Ducati to buy the massive amount of engineering that it took to get where they are was nothing short of a (South American sugar daddy?) miracle. And i don’t see anyone doing that for HD.


  26. 26 hoyt Jan 4th, 2008 at 3:35 am

    agree to some extent, but I don’t think HD has to make a giant leap with loads of cash now that the 1125R is ready with a modern 72-degree, liquid-cooled twin. *

    The market for a modern, American-made racer is so significant that, as long as it lives up to the 1125R performance claims & has hot looks, it doesn’t need to be factory-raced in order to be a commercial success.

    Racetrack success would obviously put sales even higher, but do the thousands of young squids who buy R1s, R6s, CBRs, etc. really tune into the AMA or WSB road racing to influence their buying decision? If they did, then you would think GSXRs sales should be wa-aaayyy ahead of R6s & R1s. But they aren’t. In fact, the R1 just recently returned to AMA racing. It sold well without even participating in racing because it looks hot to the intended market.

    Buell is so close with the 1125R – if it only grabbed you when it is parked. Damn… And people pissed and moaned about the looks of the 999 when it came out. I’m really frustrated by the 1125R’s looks.

    * I hope Buell/HD stipulated in the contract with Rotax that the engine construction will eventually be brought in-house in the States.

  27. 27 hoyt Jan 4th, 2008 at 3:39 am

    …and I’m not suggesting the Buell copies the look of the R1 or CBR (I mean 1098).

    Buell’s designers have demonstrated original good-looks with the Firebolt fairing, so they can do it again. Hopefully soon.

  28. 28 Nicker Jan 5th, 2008 at 2:11 am

    Good points….

    “…the thousands of young squids who buy R1s, R6s, CBRs, etc…”

    I’m thinking “young squids” are driven by price more that brand.
    The bigger question with HD’s effort will be positioning themselves in that market.

    What’s the price differential between these and a Hayabusa…?

    Can HD operate on the Japanese volume/margin equation?
    (i hope they can, but i’m not holding my breath)


  29. 29 hoyt Jan 7th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    I think there is a minimal price difference between the 1125R and a Hayabusa. The ‘Busa may even be slightly more expensive.

    The 1125R is priced right for all liter bikes. I stopped by a local dealer who had a sold one waiting for its owner (incidentally a 21 yr. old bought it). Looking at the profile, the bike looks great from the middle of the “tank” to the back. Very nice-looking engine, great-looking exhausts, wheels.

    A different fairing with possibly re-shaped radiator pods to compliment are all it needs.

  30. 30 cyclynnut Mar 3rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Just read a comment on Jan 2 about not having seen a HD “Motor Maid” riding in a parade since the ’50. First, it is not a HD club. Any model, brand-just a female who owns and rides her own. We still parade at least once a year at our annual July Convention and on other venues such as opening ceremonies at race tracks. We lead the flag around Sturgis, Daytona Speedway(Last year) and numberous other evens. We are the oldest organized club for lady riders. FYI

  31. 31 Nicker Mar 6th, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Sorry cyclynnut….

    Only saw-em of once on HD sidevalvers.
    Figured it was a HD deal.

    “… oldest organized club for lady riders…”

    Very Cool!


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