This morning July 23rd, 2010 Jim Durham, organizer of the very controversial Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge, announced in the Rapid City Journal that the grand prize of $500,000 will be given at the Broken Spoke Saloon at 7 p.m. Aug. 11 in Sturgis.
Your remember that Frank Kelly from South Carolina and William Barclay from Highland Beach, Florida, rode together under the finish banner of the Hoka Hey Challenge in Homer, Alaska. The 2 riders didn’t know each other until they met at the last checkpoint. To avoid a risk of accident while racing each other (and risking a disqualifying speeding ticket) they decided that they would ride together at legal speed and cross the finish line at the same time. Jim Durham states that the possible winner is William Barclay pending the passing of a polygraph test to prevent cheating. No word about Frank Kelly and why he could not be the possible winner and why he doesn’t have to pass a polygraph test. The Broken Spoke Saloon and Broken Spoke Campground spokespersons want my readers to know that they have no affiliation with the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge and that they are merely giving them a stage to announce the winner of the Challenge.
As I stated before, if the $500,000 prize is given away, it will appease many who will consider that it was only a very poorly managed and organized motorcycle event. But others are continuing to state that the Challenge was illegal both in the USA and Canada, was unorganized with rules changed at the start, as the ride was progressing and also after arrival. Although many participants are satisfied with their cross country ride experience from Key West to Alaska, others including riders who finished the ride in Homer, family members and the relatives of those killed or injured during the event seem still contemplating individual legal actions or a class action lawsuit.
John White claims that he has nothing to do with the 2010 Challenge, that he just tries to recruit participants for Hoka Hey 2011. But he is noted by many as the one trying now to help Jim Durham by focusing the public attention on the Pine Ridge Reservation water problems as the Charity for this year’s event, these issues never originally clearly mentioned in the list of Charities to benefit from the 2010 Challenge. At the same time, the organizers of Hoka Hey 2010 are silent about how money raised will benefit the charities originally listed on the Hoka Hey Website. (revised at 5.55 pm EST)
I am part Sioux, of secret descent, and riding a Harley is like riding a Stallion. I say a prayer everytime I get on because I know it may be the last and I am thankful to have the opportunity. I will never ride for fame or fortune. I will only ride for freedom. I can only hope for those who died they were riding for freedom. As for Jim “Red Cloud” Durham, if you want to claim to be a real man, a real Sioux warrior descendent, you should have claimed to be a descendent of Crazy Horse. Long live the spirit of Crazy Horse and the spirit of freedom.
William Barclay and Frank Kelly – I would not plan on spending any of Big Jim’s and John White’s funny money too quickly. I’d be very surprised if an attorney (or multiple attorneys) for the participants who were injured or killed or the innocent bystanders injured by participants of the completely illegal race on public roads shows up with a court order halting transfer of any Hoka Hey funds pending the outcome of the inevitable litigation. I also suspect the “winner” could open himself to civil (and/or possibly criminal) liability from their participation in an illegal activity resulting in injury and death.
i hereby put my claim in as the winner of this race as i have read all the tripe being written and am willing to take the lie detector test to prove it.
if you don’t believe me… prove me wrong!
oh can i get that cash in small bills as there is this pole dancer i owe some money to.
Cyril,
I am glad to see you feel the Hoka Hey is important enough to generate another blog. As you can see, Jim Durham has not run off with the money. You have a few mistakes in your blog. I do not take over the Hoka Hey 2011 officially until after August 11th.
I am glad to see Jim Durham has moved $500K to an escrow account and has announced when the prize money will be rewarded. I know you were very curious about whether Jim would actually hand out the funds.
Our first Hoka Hey Board Meeting is scheduled for August 14th in Rapid City.
John L. White
Press Release
The organizers of the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge announce the establishment of a new escrow account under the name of The Medicine Show Land Trust Escrow Account which is held at Pioneer Bank & Trust in Rapid City, SD. The account now contains the $500,000 purse which will be paid to the Challenge winner at 7:00pm on the 11th of August at the Broken Spoke Saloon Campground on Hwy 79 near Sturgis.
The announcement of the official winner of the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge is pending the results of a polygraph test which is scheduled to be conducted in New York City on the 28th of July. The polygraph test is being performed by International Investigative Group, Ltd. (www.iigpi.com) with offices in New York City, Long Island, Westchester, Los Angeles, Boca Raton, FL, and London. I.I.G. has worked on many notable cases, including; Tiffany Jewelry Store robbery for Lloyds of London, AIG Insurance Co. in a $120 million dollar bank fraud case, and the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing investigation among others. This firm has been featured in: NY Times, USA Today, Chicago Tribune, CNN, CNBC, Glamour Magazine, and The Tyra Banks Show.
The Medicine Show Land Trust hoped to bring awareness to several veteran and Native American causes through the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge. In fact, the Pine Ridge reservation was one of 33 Indian reservations that the Challenge route traveled through in an attempt to draw attention to the many Americans who live without running water in their homes.
The organizers of the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge would like to say thanks to all the people who supported the Challenge and helped to spread this message of unity and compassion to people around the world. Indeed, participants in the Challenge will be proud to know that the added awareness has already brought a response to this desperate need and that on the 20th of July a private individual hired a ditching & sewer repair company to put in the very first of many water lines to go in on Pine Ridge reservation.
In appreciation of Chief Oliver Red Cloud for opening his home and feeding the Challengers that visited Pine Ridge and the Red Cloud family for helping take care of the
Challenge participants, the organizers of the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge would like to invite everyone to join them at the Broken Spoke Saloon to watch as we pay the $500K to the world’s greatest long distance rider.
Boy, would I love to see the paper trail on that money before it was deposited. Who knows, maybe we will when the lawyers and forensic accountants descend later.
I’mk sure gonna miss this when it fades into history. There has been enough methane produced in course of this event to power the reservation generators for the next 10 years. I look forward every day to searching Hoka Hey to see the next jem that is produced.. It will surprise me to no end if this thing happens again in 2011.
I kind of agree with you Curt.
Interesting that it keeps pooping up on the Cyril Huze Blog.
What is this?
The 4th or 5th time?
There has to be some other kind of motorcycle news out there.
Hey John White you fraud – nice of you to say where the money is so the lawyers can grab it.. If you get five idiots to enter your stupid ILLEGAL race next year I’d be shocked.
I thought this was gonna benefit Veterans WTF? Another Indian trick to get back at the white man……
NOT IMPRESSIVE AT ALL JIM! THE SHARPER OF THE KNIVES IN THE DRAWER, KNOW THAT COMING UP WITH THE PRIZE MONEY OF THE $500,000 LARGE WOULD BE CHEAPER THEN FACING ALL THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AND ATTORNEY (PIRAHANNA’S) FEE’S AND FINES. I AM AFRAID THAT IT IS A MONTH OR TWO LATE. I HEAR THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA’S LEGAL NETWORK HAS STARTED INVESTIGATING AND A CASE WILL BE FILED. I AM JUST GLAD YOU HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO KEEP THE RIDER’S FROM, SETTING YOU ON FIRE AND WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PISS ON YOU, TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE, BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T SPEND ALL THE MONEY. MAYBE YOUR PARTNER “JIM WHITE” SOLD HIS FAMOUS “INDIAN” MOTORCYLE AND YOU CAN NOW EAT LUNCH WITH THE PROCEEDS WHEN YOU AND GET TO STURGIS. I AM GLAD THAT THE FAMILY OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIED DURING THE RACE, CAN NOW PRETEND THAT IT WAS ALL FOR THE PRIZE!
Everyone must be glad to hear that the money is in escrow but that doesn’t mean that there will be a winner announced does it. They can disqualify all the winners of note as it seems no one made every check point. Still it seems that a class action suite against the promotrs, John white and Ape
Big Jim and the Hoka Hey others. John white is Pres of APE but one must go to the Washington State office to get to Pat Hughs or at least notify him by lawyer that his company is or will be asued. I think he must know nothing about Hoka Hey and the new Motor Co.
I think that maybe from all I can find John White will be down the tube. I have read the things about he and others on CRAZY HORSE LLC and it seems that the main guy at APE has no idea about what goes on. Check with Alan Sputhe.
BTW.
Looks to me like the main body of this blog has changed since it was originally posted.
Interesting.
LOL! Gallagher is going to be onstage preforming at the same time Red Cloud will be announcing or not announcing a winner at 7:00pm on August 11th at the Broken Spoke Campground. I find humor in that somehow. 🙂 hee!
Ironically, History Channel was running an episode of “Gangland” last friday, in the Pine Ridge “District” of the Lakota Reservation in South Dakota (there are 9 districts on this reservation, Pine ridge being the largest one in the South). 82% unemployment, 95% of the community living under the poverty level, 5 cops for 55,000 people and obviously a lot of problems. The series Gangland was portraying a group of teens called the Wild Boyz as a reservation gang, dealing booze and a little bit of drugs on the reservation but they were also talking about how corrupted the entire area is.
Very interesting 1-hour documentary that is probably available on Hulu.com. This should give you guys an overview of the living conditions of this community. If there is any sort of help or money given to those folks, it will be easy to see what is done with it. They live in house that would make any homeless guy in New York look like P-Diddy.
We’re close to Surgis now… let’s see who is announced the winner, who gets what and what this entire organization is going to do with participants, charities etc…
WTF? All I hear is BS in the whole deal…
I`m sure we will here a lot more about this if they pay out in cash ! HAHAHA
On Facebook, John White explained last Thursday July 22, 2010 that there is no funds in the kitty to move to any charity! Surprised anyone?
John White seems to know a lot about Jim Durham bookkeeping…Until now Jim durham has always refused to state the number of participants. He states that he doesn’t know.
Below the transcript of John White on Facebook (saved the Facebook files because some statements are erased vey fast)
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=132029626832677&topic=144
John White wrote “Jim secured the reward money with a note from a friend. He then set out to create the Hoka Hey Challenge. He posted charities he would donate to. He planned to sell one thousand tickets. He sold far less. My bet is that Jim collected about enough to release the note and pay a reward. Based on the intake of funds there was little or nothing left to pay themselves. That would mean there is no funds in the kitty to move to any charity.
I have never known a fund raiser that pays out more than it takes in. This notion that Jim “secured” the reward is correct but some folks do not understand what that means. They somehow believe this “secured” money” is the actual prize money. What turnip truck did these fools fall off from. Where did Jim ever say that someone “donated” 500k! NUT BAGS!
“Secured” does not mean “donated”. To offer a contest with a 500k prize you must show that you can pay it. That is the law. He had a friend provide the necessary funds in the form of a note. That allowed Jim to start selling tickets. Once he sold enough tickets then he no longer needs the note. The note is returned. That is contest 101. I think he failed to reach his goal and had to yank some out of his own pocket to release the note. As I said, I doubt there is any profit to go to anything, including himself or Beth. Show me one contest that pays out more than collected? Not even the Mega Million Lottery does that!”
The lying fraud John White proclaims there is now some escrow account and everyone believes him.
JW:
“The account now contains the $500,000 purse which will be paid to the Challenge winner at 7:00pm on the 11th of August at the Broken Spoke Saloon Campground on Hwy 79 near Sturgis.”
so which is it… Broken Spoke Saloon, or Broken Spoke Campground? Two completely different places.
> the organizers of the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge would like to invite everyone to join them at the Broken Spoke Saloon to watch as we pay the $500K to the world’s greatest long distance rider.<
there may be some debate among the LD riders of the WORLD about the legitimacy of that statement, then again, most are just shaking their heads that such a claim was made. those who know better, know better.
and White's statement above just illustrates more of the "grandoise hoopla without substantiation" that's been surrounding this event from the start.
Hooka Tooka My Hoka Hey Money
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Does your momma chaw tobacca
If ya momma chaw tobacca,say
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Hooka Tooka my hard earned money
I think the Chief is kind of funny
If ya Chief say Barclay getting paid
Best ya git it ‘fore the Feds make a raid.
you can go on and on with this theme
Hoka Hey – It’s a Good Day to Die –
John White, is this “press release” published anywhere except here and Facebook? Can you post some links to verify that real newspapers are publishing it? Because if not, well, it looks pretty hokey.
Also, isn’t it a bit late for the prize money to be placed in escrow? Shouldn’t that have been the very first order of business, not the last?
I’ve been following this fiasco for the last two years and so far everyone associated with Hoka Hey has repeatedly contradicted their own statements and those of their fellow organizers.
Apparently mendacity is a prerequisite in the Hoka Hey business.
Federal laws say that the 1/2 million prize should be held in escrow before the Challenge is announced with a 500K grand prize. Or it’s fraudulent. The Challenge was announced in 2009. And the money arrived now in 2010 after the race? In the Hoka Hey website Beth Durham announced in 2009 that they received 500K from anonymous generous donors, and this money will be the prize money. Where is this money and the money paid by the the participants? $1000 x number of participants. (can we know the number of participants? Or is it Washington Confidential to avoid that people begin to make calculations?). Wait a minute: the IRS will find the paper trail. Has John White given the money to Jim Durham to make up the 500K? In exchange of what? Why the winner has to pass a polygraph test? A polygraph test is never mentioned in the 11–page rules of the Hoka Hey. Nor the gas receipts to keep. Companies declared sponsors are not sponsors (Black Hills HD denied to be a sponsor) and John White has no problem saying “sorry no money to give to any charities”. John White talks and talks and talks. A true spin master. He must be both the spokesperson of Hoka Hey 2010 and Jim Durham bookkeeper. I guess he measured the possible consequences in terms of liability. This event was and continues to be a disaster.
so where did the rest of the money go ? ANY BODY HAVE THE DATES FOR THE HORSE BACK STREET CHOPPER SHOW IN STUGIS
Horse Back Street Chopper Show.
http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2010/07/07/sturgis-horse-backstreet-choppers-bike-show/
I hear that a couple of insurance companies would already deny the claims of those injured by arguing that the Challenge was in fact an illegal Race on public street and highways, and that it doesn’t matter that the organizers call it a Challenge and obliged participants to sign a release. These releases would have no legal standing to protect the organizers of any legal claims because it is their responsibility to put in place the structure to avoid accidents and injuries. And there was no such structure all along the ride . Very interesting. Denial of these claims confirmed in court would probably mean an avalanche of lawsuits against Jim Durham and all those who helped him put in place this event. Did Hoka Hey buy their own insurance? Was it a not insurable event because considered a race by all insurance companies?
Reason why NO major brand of motorcycles or others will ever want to be associated as sponsors of this event. If legal claims are made and courts decide it was a race, even the winner grand prize would be seized to satisfy plaintiffs because you can’t legally win money from an illegal activity.
I find it odd that the race was allowed to happen in the first place and frankly amazed that the start was overseen (overlooked?) by Key West police.
I guess all you need to do to fool cops is substitute the word “challenge” for “race.” I’ll have to remember that if I’m ever pulled over for speeding.
Here are the two pertinent paragraphs from Florida’s statute on highway racing:
316.191 Racing on highways
(1) No person shall drive any vehicle in any race, speed competition or contest, drag race or acceleration contest, test of physical endurance, exhibition of speed or acceleration, or for the purpose of making a speed record, and no person shall in any manner participate in any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition.
(3) “Racing” is defined as the use of one or more vehicles in an attempt to outgain, outdistance, or prevent another vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another vehicle or vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0316/SEC191.HTM&Title=->2001->Ch0316->Section%20191#0316.191
Seriously, can anyone deny that statute contains an accurate description of the Hoka Hey “Challenge”?
Todd. Bravo. This event was illegal from its conception to the start to today and tomorrow. Good luck to JIM, BETH AND JOHN.
Todd8080 nailed it and so did Brian.
Do you suppose that the IRS agents who will be waiting to collect from the “winner” in Sturgis will ride there or trailer it?
Anyone have any experience with the IRS tax fraud whistle blower program?
dont they pay 10%?
It’s a scam
My payers go out to these poor people that got injured or even killed and their families.
yes, and what about Jim (or Beth’s.. i’ll need to go search) comment to media that police in all states where the challenge ran through had been notified ahead of time and had approved the routing thru their state.
um, yeah, right. All these state troopers and local patrolmen were informed about the Hoka Hey contestants racing, i mean CRUISING, thru their states in quest of their soul or a pot of gold, whichever they chose to ride for? Yes, i’m sure all the police were right behind the Hoka Hey Challenge.
found one of the quotes:
“Checkpoints are at various businesses, and the amenities at the checkpoints are determined by them,” she[Beth Durham] said. “(The organizers of Hoka Hey) have the cooperation of state troopers, local police departments and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are working with us.”
However the Key West Police Department said it was not familiar with the challenge.
“I am not aware of it, but there is really no reason for us to know about it unless the law is broken, and that hasn’t happened,” said Alyson Crean, public information officer for the Key West Police Department.”
link: http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/news/article_0564e07a-7b48-11df-ae98-001cc4c03286.html
just ran across this exchange on the HHC blog. a rider asking about finishers….
I find the official HHC response a bit… unnerving?
It started when i posted the following on Facebook, and then was quoted the HHC reply to that rider i mentioned in the sentence above. Read on:
posted by me, Carla, on FB today:
“Clarity’ is the biggest thing that has been missing since the very beginning.”
you got that right Alex.
Yep, no list of starters, no list of finishers.
One would think all the participants would want, even demand, to see both.
posted by Bill Richardson
Carla,
I think this will answer your question about a list.
Quoted from: http://blog.hokaheychallenge.com/2009/06/03/challenge-chat.aspx?pg=9&view=threaded#Comment
“7/23/2010 3:36 PM chris johnson wrote:
Regarding that last post….how do we know where we finished? I am desperate to find out my position. I would very much like to make a certificate of the achievement if you are not planning too. Was wanting g to put the finishing positions of the top 25 or so with names etc. If I happen to be in the running g for the money, would live to know that also. Please call me.
Chris Johnson
Montana hd.
Reply to this
7/23/2010 3:50 PM Hoka Hey Organizers wrote:
Unfortunately, people continue to misconstrue the Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge as a race where ranking matters. However, Challenge organizers maintain that this was an individual test of endurance and that the order in which participants came across the finish line is not an indication of how well the route was run.
We are currently reviewing just one person for the prize award and do not have official rankings for the other finishers. We are getting the polygraph done for William Barclay on the 28th of July in New York City and if need be, we will then move down the line to review the next Challenger that arrived in Homer.
For the rest; finishing the Challenge in its self is a noteworthy accomplishment which warrants recognition. Still, though we wish that we could recognize every one who completed every turn and travelled every mile of the route; it really must be regarded as a matter of self-gratification.
Thank you for understanding and, more importantly, for being part of something that was both as unique as the individual participants and yet bigger than all of us combined. You are all winners in our book.”
In other words, we ain’t got no stinkin’ list.
seriously….
“we aint got no stinkin’ list” ??????????
hmmmmm… attorney’s would just LOVE jumping all over that one
oops… Retraction time.
That last line “We ain’t got no stinkin’ list” was added by BillR, it was not (as i thought at first) written by the HHC on their blog. Their entry ended with “You are all winners in our book”
just wanted to clarify that!!
[altho, clearly,…. there were no stinkin’ lists! how could there be when they werent at finish to check some of early finishers in!)
or cyril.. you can just delete this and my previous post to clear the confusion. LOL 😉
Not that this is big news, but Will Barclay has been officially declared the winner.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Springs-SD/Hoka-Hey-Motorcycle-Challenge/169060858080?v=wall&story_fbid=141909802504127
The announcement made by John White on Facebook:
“William Barclay will receive a wire transfer of 500,000 dollars from Pioneer Bank and Trust of Rapid City, South Dakota directly to William’s bank account.” (after a successful passed polygraph and drug test, none of them stipulated in the Hoka Hey rules?)
Questions:
1- When will he receive the money? No date? Why?
2- No more given in Sturgis August 11th at the Broken Spoke! Fearing something? IRS, bikers?
3- Hoka Hey is supposed by law to withhold taxes, something like 38.5%, before giving the money to the winner and send it immediately to the IRS. And they don’t do it? They transfer 500K? Hello the IRS.
4- Hoka Hey 2011 meeting August 14 in Sturgis moved to Las Vegas September 1st? Nobody wanted to participate to the meeting? Nobody wants to be on the board? Fearing something in Sturgis?
5- Zero money to charities?
6- Still no condolences to the families of those killed, no support words to those injured in this illegal race?
Again and again and again. Nothing looking honest. The 500 K award doesn’t close the many pending legal issues regarding HH. Now, I bet that lawyers are going to begin their charge against JD, BD & JW.
Next announcement may be “due to pending legal issues the Hoka Hey 2011 is canceled until further notice. Meeting of the board is posponed until september 1, 2020”
If you go to Todd 8080 post above on July 27 and read the Florida Statute Todd has posted this ride….this event….the Hoka Hey is done forever including right now. By law this ride was not legal in anyway-shape-or form. Too bad the riders were not aware of this law. I am sure most would have never ridden knowing they we doing something against the law. If I were Mr. White…knowing what this law says…I would whip my hands of any dealings with the Hoka Hey and its organizers. Mr. White might be falling into a major problem by lending a hand supporting an illegal event. Florida law might be standing in line to take every penny from this event.
In the future….I would support the Hoka Hey if the organized ride were set up more like a poker run. From Key West Florida to Homer Alaska. Seven stops. Texas Hold-Um rules. Five winners at the end that have the best five hands. No rider would be under pressure of speeding, no rider would have any reason to take a sign down. No rider would have a reason not to stop when he or she sees another rider go down. No rider would have to worry if the event were insured because insurance for Poker Run events are taken out every day here in the USA. The prize for the five winners at the end would all be the same….or highest hand could get more…it would not matter….the highest hand could come in last and still win.
My last statement is this….To date…..Chuck Lynns wife has not been contacted by the Hoka Hey Organizners. She lost her husband in Wyoming on June 26, and not one call to her telling her how sorry they are for her loss. Why is this? The least they could do if they do nothing at all is call her and tell her they are sorry for her loss. Because they have not called her…..would it not make you wonder if they care about the living at all, those who are still in the running, Chuck stands no chance of winning….Chucks wife has lost everything. I would love to say would I really think about the Hoka Hey
Wake up people. These organizers don’t care about bikers and protecting them, promoting motorcycling and helping charities. They care only about their own checking accounts. They demonstrated that they care about nothing else. As a matter of fact, none of them are true bikers. Stay away from these people. And for the relatives of those killed and injured, for all those who participated because of charities (not 1 cent was given to these charities), with rules changed all the time to try to help them escape any legal responsibility (will not work), even not present in Homer when the first participants arrived, it’s time to take action so that it will never happen again in our industry.
“directly to William’s bank account.” still sticking with the theme of not doing anything the way they originally said they were I see.
The only thing “consistant” about ANY of this is the “inconsistancy”….
So, now the money is to be awarded by wire transfer. A whole lot less exciting than “The prize will be awarded in 500,000.00 of pure Alaskan gold.”
My understanding is that Barclay was declared the winner and the funds deposited in his account forthwith
“so I was told” today
Declaring a winner and to pay him is another story. How do you explain that the winner is no more announced in Sturgis. And why to do a “wire transfer” instead of a ceremony first in Sturgis. Only Barclay knows if he is paid or not (in full?), minus withheld taxes? We wait for his statement. The polygraph test is not mentioned in the rules of Hoka Hey, nor the DMV check!
I personally know Will Barclay and he is perhaps one of the best motorcycle riders today. Prior to winning the Hoka Hey he spent a great deal of time riding a restored antique motorcycle through the Himalayas as a tune-up for this exciting challenge.
He is an accomplished pilot (flying corporate jets out of the USA, Dubai and India) and a world renown sailor (raced in Dubai, twice to Cuba from Sarasota and Saint Petersburg Florida and multiple trips to Bermuda and other destinations around the globe) He is an intuitively brilliant strategist. He planned the Hoka Hey with precise planning and proved that he won according to the rules.
Whether you agree with the legitimacy of this race or not, Barclay should be applauded for his accomplishment and his courage, endurance and sportsmanship.
Steve –
No one is saying anything bad about Mr. Barclay – not by any means. Most everyone on this board is on his side and hoping he gets the $$ he was promised. It sounds like he is a very well accomplished rider and we are just hoping he gets his just reward. Everyone so far is none too happy with the people that put this “event” (together?).
pity about those charities…I’m sure they’re all happy that Mr. Barclay allegedly got his money.
Hi I recent came across this forum on Google. Just wanted to introduce myself and commend the admin’s for a forum proficiently done!
Best regards,
Rebecca 🙂
Masterblaster,
On behalf of the charities who have received no money, the riders families who were killed on this ride, and all others who were defrauded, misled, or lied to by the (dis)organizers of this ride. I APOLOGIZE.
PS Please send me some of your kool aid. My truth-tainted flavor leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Has everyone read Wil’s “interview” in Throttle….
No issues with….off the bike only 10 hrs TOTAL including gas stops, sleeping, tire change in 8+ days?
Why was his cell phone on a special bracket so it could see it while riding? Middle of the night in the middle of no where-how do you know if you should stop with 1/2 a tank of gas left vs push it…would it help if you had previoulsy ‘read’ the directions after each check point to your ‘sister’ who then could map out those directions to figure out the exact route and then text you your driving instructions–including where to stop for gas??? Wil is selling a story-ain’t buying he did it single handed. Again, I can see needing a cell phone for an emergency–BUT WHY a special bracket so keep it where you could get calls and SEE incoming text msgs…all I can say is “one heck of a tough interview there”.
Oh wait..John White posted on the now gone FB pages that he set up the interview and the “reporter” was a friend of his–now isn’t that special. Too bad Dick Nixon didn’t have reporter buddies on the Washingotn Post like that back in the 70’s.
I know that this is a little late but has anyone ever seen a picture or the real thing on the new john white/Crazy Horse/ Hoka Hey motorcycle/ Check here in the Seattle area and no one has even heard of it and a friend was in the Hoka Hey/Crazy Horse shop and nothing was happening. Is it possible that Red Cloud and JW are building it on the Reservation in SD?
JW had, when I was there tried to get the Indians at the Seven Feathers Casino or their lawyer to back him but they declined. Could it be that Jim has also put the scam on JW and APE.