Alert. Motorcycle Checkpoints On Your Way To Daytona Bike Week.

From Dan Forrest, State Director of A.B.A.T.E. Georgia.

“Motorcycle Checkpoints to begin in March. As many of you know, the State of Georgia received $70,000.00 from the NSTB for Motorcycle ONLY Safety Check Points. They will stop all Motorcycles at these Check Points.

We were informed by unnamed sources that the Check Points would start in early March to coincide with the Daytona Bike Week event. Most points of entry to Florida will be involved. We are anticipating them to start March 3rd in order to take advantage of the additional flow of Motorcycle traffic thru our State. I was told that the officers conducting the safety check points have been trained in what to check for so be sure you, your paper work and your bike are in order.

We understand that this is just a way to increase revenues, so do all you can to avoid adding to the state funds. There are many who trailer into Georgia and ride into Florida from here. You may wish to change your plans and trailer on through to Florida”

78 Responses to “Alert. Motorcycle Checkpoints On Your Way To Daytona Bike Week.”

  1. 1 steve-O Feb 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm


  2. 2 Dr Robert Harms Feb 12th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    “. You may wish to change your plans and trailer on through to Florida”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@ Im not so sure that this will work. When entering Florida on both 75 and 95 the state has “Agricultural” inspections where ALL trailers and (what THEY non-define as ) “Cargo Vans” MUST stop for “inspection”.

  3. 3 Jurano Feb 12th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    This is so brainless! NTSB would make much better use of their funds (our tax money) if they were to implement checkpoints for cars and trucks DUI (driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs, cellular phones and DVDs). That would certainly be a more meaningful “safety check”. But there’s way too much money at stake in the 4-wheel world.

    It’s so easy to pick on us motorcyclists, when the problem is elsewhere.

  4. 4 Gas Man Feb 12th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Any check point is a violation of your 4th amendment rights to privacy. They are stopping you with no probable cause and you have done nothing illegal to warrant the stop. That is why they are illegal in Michigan (where I live). I will never get out of my car unless I’m being detained for something. If then, get out of your car/truck and lock your doors, they have no reason to search your interior and tell them you don’t condone a search without a warrant. If you’re on your bike, make sure all your bags are locked, then lock your steering and ignition.

    You have to take a stand for your basic rights before the liberals take them away.

  5. 5 Woody Feb 12th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Good to know they’re willing to borrow more money from China to important things we can’t function without. So very sad to watch my country bleeding to death by millions of pinpricks.

  6. 6 NickD Feb 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
  7. 7 NickD Feb 12th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
  8. 8 Biker Feb 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    That is sum BS! Instead of doing the job of catching criminals……lets go for the fast buck!!!!!!!

  9. 9 Brian from NJ Feb 12th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Sounds like profiling to me. The TSA can’t check every muslim at the air port. But the cops can check every motorcycle entering Florida? Lawyers and politicians are destroying our country.

  10. 10 Unkl Ian Feb 12th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Yes, let’s discourage people from traveling and spending money in their own country.

  11. 11 deadwood1783 Feb 12th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Guess I’ll stay put. We have a$$hole politicians and Nazi cops right here. I don’t have to take my wallet to Ga. or Fl. to seek out more hassle. What a shame we as Americans put up with this crap. Maybe we should all grow a set and “Walk like an Egyptian”. Ha

  12. 12 Dave Blevins Feb 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Being a beekeeper in my spare time, I wonder if a trooper would like to check my saddlebags before I cross the state line…
    Oops, sorry officer… I guess they got in there after I parked my bike for winter!

  13. 13 Dave Blevins Feb 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Try not to swat at them, it only makes them mad!

  14. 14 bluehog Feb 13th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    @Dr Harms….If its on a trailer it doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t stolen….could be in pieces. All those Daytona cars aren’t street legal and are trailered. If its being ridden on a public road it has to be legal in the state its registered (if the registration is valid). If its NOT being ridden on the street then it doesn’t matter as long as its on a trailer.

  15. 15 BadMonkeyMW Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:27 am

    The Nazi States of America. How the fuck are they going to run a motorcycle only checkpoint on the interstate?

  16. 16 James @ Open Road Biker Feb 13th, 2011 at 3:09 am

    I guess I will be rolling through AL down to FL. May be a little out of the way for me but I think I can put together a descent ride avoiding the superslabs as much as possible. Maybe leave a little early and visit the PCB area.

  17. 17 Wiz Feb 13th, 2011 at 4:08 am

    Big Brother is watching, listening, monitoring, and enforcing! Wiz

  18. 18 DBW Feb 13th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    Simply BOYCOTT Daytona and call the chamber of commerce and tell them why.

  19. 19 ROGUE Feb 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    DBW You are suggesting Punishing the people in Florida and those wanting to attend Bike Week for some thing that the State of Georgia is doing,
    That just does not make sence.
    By all means contact Daytona Beach and Volusia County Chambers of Commerce and complain though.

  20. 20 ROGUE Feb 13th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Notice that the Federal Government through the NSTB gave the State of Georgia $70,000.00 of our Tax Dollars to Profile Motorcyclist.
    The cops don’t care they are making money. Take the money away from the state and there will not be any more check points as they do Not Make Money for the state.
    They are collecting information.
    The thing to do is complain to our Elected Federal Officials about Wasteful Spending.
    If the NSTB has so much money they can spend it on things like this they need to have their budget cut and possibly let some employees and or directors go.
    Every Bit Of Wasteful Spending will Help Lower The National Debt and it is your and my Taxpayer Dollars that is being used.

  21. 21 Mike Greenwald Feb 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    The purpose of these stops is to gather information for further profiling. Secondarily, the purpose of these stops is for asset seizure. The NTSB is disbursing your tax dollars to States like Georgia, New York and other States because your Senators and Representatives are wasting your money.

    The idiots, that think a boycott of Daytona Bike Week is a good idea, are wrong. There is no reason to punish the vendors, manufacturers and local businesses.

    The overreaching of the Federal, State and local governments to gather information is wrong.

    Government will continue doing this to motorcyclists because the majority of motorcyclists do not know their rights and act like they are compliant and stupid. In addition to being stuck on stupid, they refuse to learn their rights, their constitution or what and how to speak with law enforcement officers or their government officials.

    Stay stupid, stay compliant, and keep on waving.

  22. 22 Alan Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Here is what I have learned politicians and departmental leaders so this is what I suggest.

    Flood the email systems of the GDOT, The GA State Patrol and the New Governor of GA Gov Nathan Deal.

    Put the same thing in every single subject matter and then contact local media and see if you can get those people to cooperate.

    We only have a couple of weeks and we should get this moving.


  23. 23 Bigalyts Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am


  24. 24 Alan Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Here is a letter I am sending to Gov. Deals office. If he gets more than one he may listen

    Dear Governor Deal,

    I am providing a link to you. It has been reported and is fast spreading that the NTSB is going to give the State of GA 70,000.00 for “Motorcycle Only Checkpoints” for all motorcyclists headed in and through the State of GA to Bike Week in Daytona, Beach.

    A lot of bikers are now planning to leave early and divert through AL. My questions and concerns:

    1. Is it doable to turn tourist money away and earn a reputation from a group of people who largely supported you during your election, contributes lots of tax dollars and tourists dollars for the name sake of maybe generating some revenue by issuing tickets or stopping bikers for a so called “Safety Checkpoint”.

    2. GA earning a reputation of being biker or motorcyclist unfriendly by profiling on them?

    I would appreciate your attention to this matter.

    Thank you

  25. 25 Mike Greenwald Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:46 am


    How about posting the email addresses?

  26. 26 ROGUE Feb 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Please contact Florida Governor and legislators and inform them that the actions of the State of Georgia under payment from NSTB is Going to Cost Florida Major loss of Tourist Dollars!

  27. 27 rc Feb 13th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    “Maybe we should all grow a set and “Walk like an Egyptian” AMEN

    If you have done nothing wrong. The answer is not taking different routes or trailer through Georgia.

    The answer is refusing to comply!

    What they are doing is unconstitutional. They will continue to do it as long as, like lemmings, we allow them to. See “Maybe we should all grow a set and “Walk like an Egyptian” again!!!!!!

    When you come to the check point pull over to the side of the road and refuse to go through. You may be arrested, you may sit there a very long time, you may receive various citations, it most probably will interrupt your arrival time in Daytona, it most certainly will strike a blow for freedom.

    Search you tube for American Citizens refusing to comply with checkpoints on this side of the border.
    They are hassled and threatened and THEN, if they stick to their guns, are allowed to go about there way. Why? Because the authorities know it is unconstitutional!



  28. 28 zyon Feb 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    I understand the whole “invasion of privacy” issue but they have stop points for DUI all the time. hell, they have stop points for child car seats.

    If your motorcycle is legal, your papers are in order, your exhaust is legal and your not DUI, what is 5-minutes of your time?

    I would understand if motorcycles were the only checkpoints in history but damn, people get worked up over every little thing.

    If they never caught any body doing anything illegal at these check points, they would not have them. So, if they can get one asshole who doesnt have insurance, or one drunken idiot off the road, it’s a better road for me to drive on. I never get nervous when I get pulled over because I have nothing to hide. If I was speeding, I pay the fine and move on.

  29. 29 Larry R Feb 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    We are so f&*ked. Fight or flight are our options. What are you going to do? I hear federal prison isn’t too bad. Hell, it might be better than being supposedly free out here. I do like the beekeeper idea.

  30. 30 Larry R Feb 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Hey! You could always dress-up like a Muslim and they would let you right through.

  31. 31 Mike Greenwald Feb 13th, 2011 at 12:28 pm


    You understand nothing. You are the epitome of what is wrong with this country. Screw you compliant lifestyle. Screw your compliant way of thinking. Go deliver donuts and muffins to the checkpoints and don’t get a government grant to do it. We’ve had a saturation of your type of entitlement speakers protected under our First Amendment. Functional, constitutional illiterates that ride motorcycles are what is wrong with this country.

  32. 32 madpuppy Feb 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:27 am
    They will do it the same way they do Big Trucks ! They will put the electric signs out telling bikers to come in to the ” rest areas “, theres plenty of room, and if anyone rides on by there will be chase cars to run the people down. I agree with most folks here just have all your ducks in a row, or pull over and protest. Ether way, do what Rogue suggests and write the Florida Governor and legislators .

  33. 33 Inspector Feb 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Zyon, your an idiot, its an invasion of our rights as motorcyclist, let em start here and where do they stop They are pin pointing riders and nobody else, its discrimination. I say boycott Georgia completely now and forever.

  34. 34 deadwood1783 Feb 13th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Well spoken Mike Greenwald. They chip away at our rights a little at a time. That’s how its done.
    What a shame, we as Americans stand by and let this chit happen. First it was
    Drivers License Checkpoints and everybody cheered them on, after all we can’t
    have unlicensed drivers roaming the quiet country side. Unless they are illegal
    aliens that is. Then Sobriety Check Points, and everybody cheered them on,
    nobody wants drunks on the road,,right,,unless its you after two glasses of wine
    with dinner. Now motorcycles only. Based solely on your mode of transportation. Unconstitutional. Well, if you won’t stand up for everyones
    rights there will be no one to stand with you when they come for yours. What if
    they have BMW or SUV checkpoints. What about Black only or Jews only, etc. This is NAZI hor$eshit and must be stopped. This is not a game folks, this is the time to say ENOUGH.

  35. 35 Mr. Potts Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Starting to sound more and more like Nazi Germany. “Show me your papers”!

  36. 36 janbolt Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Contact Congress and urge them to suspend NHTSA grant funding program DTNH22-10-R-00386. This is the program which funds the “Motorcycle Law Enforcement Demonstrations” program which is government-speak for motorcycle only roadblocks.

    As for zyon and others who embrace and empower the police state and corrupt government, it is not a matter of it being only a slight inconvenience. It is a serious deprivation of natural rights, essential individual liberty, and freedom. Either government limits its power in accordance with the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution and state constitutions, affirming essential individual liberties, and curtails the police state and the people stop voting for corrupt career politicians, or revolution is inevitable. We are on a very dangerous path. If you consider yourself an American, you are on that path just the same as I am, and it is inevitable that we shall clash. I am ready to fight for freedom. Are you ready to fight to enslave others? That is what it will come down to. If you believe yourself immune to abuses by the police state, I strongly urge you to re-examine your position.

  37. 37 scooter Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    a lot of our police officers go to war to fight for our country. they do this without being told the have to. then here comes the state of georgia making them do this . whats the point of fighting for freedom on foregn soil when you just give it up on american soil. i say boycott georgia ridding your bike or driving in auto.

  38. 38 Bigfoot Feb 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    It’s simple. Either boycot Grorgia completelt or go to the check pointa and stand up for your rights or geet all the riders coming down the East Coast to meet up just befor the Georgia state line and enter together as one very large body or riders and just ride through. But no matter how it is done, everyone should write or call Georgia and let them know what the riders of America feel. I can feel the hand of George Soros in this. The former Nazi is buying our country with the helpm of those in office. If you think things are bad now, wait till he owns “our” country. Laconia, Sturgis and the Red Wood Run here I come.

  39. 39 Ken Settle Feb 13th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    This has all been done before and it was a huge mess…. they tried to do this outside the World Superbike round in Utah. These are links to how it unfolded.

  40. 40 CHAINSAW Feb 13th, 2011 at 2:25 pm


    I guess you’ve never driven southbound on I-75 through Valdosta, Ga. after dark, and saw the multiple, simultaneously, stopped cars, trucks, vans, etc., pulled over with the vehicles’ entire contents removed (not neatly either) onto the the emergency lane as four officers wearing black gloves and external flack jackets are gleefully digging through what is most times innocent citizens that don’t know their rights and allow these thugs to intimidate them.
    I personally challenge you to drive a four-wheeled vehicle with the trunk weighted down with suitcases, bound for Disney or some touristy area in Florida, and go 1, ONE mile per hour over the speed limit on the same route mentioned above and see what happens to you.
    Profiling will occur, bubba.
    Never mind a checkpoint, it happens every night.

  41. 41 Woody Feb 13th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    zyon, the other checkpoints you mention apply to ALL vehicles, not just bikes. Sobriety checkpoints are legal by checking every 5th car, 7th car, whatever, and any vehicles that do evasive acts like a U-turn or pulling over to the shoulder. By avoiding their “turn in line” they draw attention and probable cause BS to themselves. I’m defending this because it’s not defensible IMHO, only pointing out the differences. If the NTSB wants to build bike inspection stations like the Semi truck weigh stations and the law of the land is set up like for the big rigs, fine. I don’t see how we could stop it then. This current checkpoint is 100% BS and I think I see a rapid cancellation of Bike Week in my future despite me mentioning the other day how I didn’t need MBeach ’cause I had FL to look forward to. Maybe I’ll just fly to Miami and spend a week in the Keys & buy a tee shirt.

  42. 42 deadwood1783 Feb 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Dear Congressman ____________________
    I am writing you on a matter I consider to be of grave concern to our freedoms as Americans. NHTSA grant funding program DTNH22-10-R-00386. This program is a gross abuse of power. It singles out motorcycle riders only for “safety inspections”. This program is scheduled to be implemented in the state of Georgia just in time for Daytona Bikeweek in March. This is exactly the kind of abuse of power which so many of our forefathers fought against in WWII. Pease help lead the fight against totalitarian enactments such as this.

    Please send this or a similar note to every politician in America if care about personal freedom.

  43. 43 Bigalyts Feb 13th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    What if I have a Fucking Joint or Two or Three? What If I happen to have a perscription Pill in my Pocket without the Perscription Bottle, because I took the Pills out of my Saddle Bags a Few Gas Staion Stops, 6 hours before. What if I don’t want to unpack all my Bags to get my Pills out each time I have to take my I carry them in my Pocket. They would arrest me so Fricken’ Quick and wouldnt even want to look at my Perscription Bottle cause maybe the Pills were not the same and I already have 2 Joints so I must be a DRUG DEALER, Oh yeah, I have a Old Rolex that become part of my “PROFILING” of the Modern Day Drug Dealer…………. Now Jail, and hire a Lawyer and miss Bike Week, cause my Motorcycle is Impounded till I or my Lawyer Squares the Bullshit Charge up, $25,000 Dollars Later!!!!!! And you know what I am thinking while this whole NIGHTMARE is happening to me???? If I ran into “zyon” now I would Kick His Ass, for becoming a Whossy assed Conformist !!!!!!!!!!!! Eh, Mate!

  44. 44 Weezy Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Here is How i would handle this situation.
    Riding to daytona, I see a sign, “ALL MOTORCYCLES MUST EXIT”
    I pull off at the exit and syop at the sign. While the oficer is doing his MC Roadblock greeting I am turning off my bike, locking the ignition, and pulling out audio/video equipment.
    My first important question is, “Is this a consensual stop?” If the cop says no, I ask for the warrant.
    The officer will most likely try to slide around that question. so I ask another very important question. “Am I free to Go?” The duty is on the citizen to express their desire to not be detained.
    If the Officer still wants to play (might not) I will have read Georgia’s law as well as posted it on my website regarding the paperwork required. however when it comes to an officer putting his greasy mitts on my bike, we have a whole new dialouge.
    Officer says : turn your ignition on I need to check your lights.
    Me: are you requiring me to participate in your investigation?
    Officer: Shallow Threats, intimidation and BS.
    Me: I wish to have my attorney present prior to making any incriminating statements or acts. (turning on my bike)
    ******* You can protest without breaking the law*****************
    You never have to answer questions, or incriminate yourself.
    you need to ask for the “LAW” that requires you to participate in the “safety check” of your motorcycle.
    The “easy way out ” will only lead to more checkpoints and government intrusion. These techniques are street proven and highly effective, you can learn more on the website.

  45. 45 Jessica Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    hello there, really good blog, and a good understand! one for my favorites.

  46. 46 rc Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    you say, “I understand the whole “invasion of privacy” issue”

    No apparently you do not.

    you say “If your motorcycle is legal, your papers are in order, your exhaust is legal and your not DUI, what is 5-minutes of your time?”

    It is not 5 mins of my time. It is 5 mins of my freedom! If I there is no probable cause to pull me over and I am pulled over then my rights have just been infringed upon. “Group think” does not yet trump individual rights.

    you say “If they never caught any body doing anything illegal at these check points, they would not have them. So, if they can get one asshole who doesn’t have insurance, or one drunken idiot off the road, it’s a better road for me to drive on.”

    In America it is better that 100 guilty go free than one who is not guilty be detained illegally.

    The following video demonstrates the testicular fortitude many “Bikers RIghts” advocates need to develop. One kid who stood for the constitution and won:i

    Obviously writing politicians is the first action to be taken. However my experience has been that doing so does nothing but fill my inbox with Their newsletters w/o response to my concern.

    IF someone can find dates, times and locations for these check points last ditch forms of activism can be explored.

    The Band

  47. 47 Weezy Feb 13th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Here is How i would handle this situation.
    Riding to daytona, I see a sign, “ALL MOTORCYCLES MUST EXIT”
    I pull off at the exit and syop at the sign. While the oficer is doing his MC Roadblock greeting I am turning off my bike, locking the ignition, and pulling out audio/video equipment.
    My first important question is, “Is this a consensual stop?” If the cop says no, I ask for the warrant. If yes, I reply “I DO NOT CONSENT”
    The officer will most likely try to slide around that question. so I ask another very important question. “Am I free to Go?” The duty is on the citizen to express their desire to not be detained.
    If the Officer still wants to play (might not) I will have read Georgia’s law as well as posted it on my website regarding the paperwork required. however when it comes to an officer putting his greasy mitts on my bike, we have a whole new dialouge.
    Officer says : turn your ignition on I need to check your lights.
    Me: are you requiring me to participate in your investigation?
    Officer: Shallow Threats, intimidation and BS.
    Me: I wish to have my attorney present prior to making any incriminating statements or acts. (turning on my bike)
    ******* You can protest without breaking the law*****************
    You never have to answer questions, or incriminate yourself.
    you need to ask for the “LAW” that requires you to participate in the “safety check” of your motorcycle.
    The “easy way out ” will only lead to more checkpoints and government intrusion. These techniques are street proven and highly effective, you can learn more on the website.

  48. 48 BadMonkeyMW Feb 13th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    This is the letter I composed. I’ve already sent it Gov. Deal in Georgia and it will be going out to several officials in Florida including the governor, mayor of Daytona, and the Daytona Chamber of Commerce. Feel free to copy and paste and use it yourself. This is something we can absolutely not tolerate. Know your rights and fight like hell to preserve them.

    I am writing today because it has come to my attention that the state of Georgia has accepted $70,000 in taxpayer money from the NTSB to conduct illegal and discriminatory checkpoints targeting those riding a motorcycle in Georgia. These checkpoints are set to be carried out in conjunction with the dates of Daytona Bike Week in Florida this coming March.
    It is nothing short of reprehensible for the state of Georgia to use taxpayers’ money to hinder and harrass motorcycle riders traveling through this area. You and I both know that the media would be in a frenzy if Georgia announced checkpoints targeting only people of a certain race or religious background, but somehow doing just that to American citizens traveling by motorcycle is acceptable? It is not, and you can rest assured that I will be well versed on my rights if I encounter one of these checkpoints and will absolutely not tolerate illegal action on the part of the police.
    It is my sincere hope that you will seriously reconsider the course that Georgia is heading down with this type of action and elminate these checkpoints immediately. Thank you.

  49. 49 Buzz Kanter Feb 13th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    How can this be legal? Are they stopping all cars and trucks too?

  50. 50 TigerLily Feb 13th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Zion makes an excellent point about all the other checkpoints that have been tolerated. To anyone that has ever gone through any other type of checkpoint without challenging it – TSA included – take a good look in the mirror – and without the makeup on. It’s hypocritical to condemn Zion for his acceptance of motorcycle-only checkpoints when most of us have tolerated such violations on others.

    So now here we are – facing what others have faced. Now it is on our doorstep and some of us want to cry about it like little bit.ches. Get over it and take one for the rest of the team (U.S.A.). Those who would trailer to avoid this challenge are either lazy, cowards, or both. Those who would boycott are plain silly – you’re only punishing yourselves and the motorcycling industry. Do you think any main-stream group of people gives a crap about motorcyclists? Hell no.

    That’s why the BEST way to address this is to get schooled, know the law, confront this and any roadblock eyeball to eyeball, get your cameras out, don’t consent to jack squat, and file complaints when law enforcers overstep their bounds. Just because you didn’t get a ticket, doesn’t mean you can’t complain. And complaints are costly to the system. Enough of them and they will finally come to realize that violating our rights is not the answer. (In Las Vegas cops are thinking twice before signing up for these checkpoints despite the overtime because we are making it NOT WORTH THEIR WHILE to violate us.)

    Anyone who thinks checkpoints are about keeping us safer – well, just keep telling yourself that to justify your apathy. Just remember: soon, the government is going to screw YOU over with something that means something to YOU. Do you like cheesecake? Too bad, if the government can “prove” cheesecake consumption increases heart disease they’ll outlaw that next. And skinny people will be telling you to get over it cause you shouldn’t be fat. And there will be other “Zions” ready to tell you that if these invasive measures can save one life, then it’s worth a little sacrifice from the rest of us. Do you like your afternoon cocktail? There’s a whole crap-load of moralists who would love to take that away from YOU.

    This is not about getting $ for the State – the cost to conduct these checkpoints will never be recovered by issuing citations. Jail time is costly. What this is about is CONTROL OVER THE PEOPLE. That’s what it was about in Germany when the Jews were told to wear their Stars, and that’s what it’s about today in America. The sooner we come to this realization and resist in masses, the sooner they’ll back off. Alternatively, let’s just light up those ovens to cook ourselves – Lord knows we wouldn’t want to do anything to annoy those wonderful law enforcers who put their lives on the line every day to protect our civil rights and keep us safe.

    As my friend David Stilwell always says, “this could be a bummer – or an opportunity.” Do we roll over and let them win? Or do take action that will begin to have a lasting impact for our Country?

  51. 51 BadMonkeyMW Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    RC – I watched the whole 27+ minutes of that video of that guy sticking to his guns with those idiot border patrol cowards! That guy did just what we all need to do: He knew his rights and he stuck to them no matter what. That’s a real American.

  52. 52 TigerLily Feb 14th, 2011 at 2:55 am

    @ RC – great you-tube you found, and great replies to Zion. Imagine if every law abiding citizen did what that citizen did at that Border Patrol checkpoint. One of two things would happen: legislators and judges would make it legal to make us answer questions – a serious breech of our Constitution; or these checkpoints would be dismantled.

    This is a great training vid. It takes a huge amount of gonads to stand up to the pack of armed gangsters that he faced. The difference with this scenario and a motorcycle checkpoint is that we motorcyclists will not have the benefit of the insulation that drivers have. There is nothing to keep an irritated cop from zapping us. That’s why its especially crucial to know how to respond and know how far to go to be able to go home in one piece. You can see how that citizen kept his window cracked. A border patrol agent brandished a weapon at him. Had he been on a motorcycle he might have been attacked. We need to be extra savvy to stay safe against these checkpoints; just like it takes greater skill to ride a motorcycle than to drive a car.

    I don’t know what follow-up, if any, he did. The process of complaining is a crucial one. Flooding internal affairs with complaints is much more effective than flooding legislators with letters, though of course, sending a letter is certainly better than no action at all.

    It’s ironic when leos preach about how important and dangerous their job is (like one of them on that video said). But in actuality it is more dangerous to be a law-abiding citizen that exercises their rights. LEO’s have the power to do a lot more harm to us than we have to do to them.

    Therefore, our greatest strength is that we outnumber them. Knowledge will be the power that we use to win. I hope everyone sees that video and becomes inspired and hopeful that we can beat back the tyranny peacefully, safely, and effectively.

  53. 53 Roger Feb 14th, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Be aware that this is a test from the Federal government. If it is successful here in Georgia, it will be implemented further. Join ABATE, MRF or your local motorcycle rights organization to help fight these discriminatory tactics.

  54. 54 zyon Feb 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    LMFAO, Everything is a “Right” to you people. Riding a motorcycle on public roads without being stopped is a right? I can’t find that in the constitution or the Bill of Rights. For a fact, I drive from Eastern PA, to Orlando at least twice a year, through DC and right down 95. Been stopped once!

    I can’t wait until one of your motorcycles disappears from your garage and your engine and tranny end up on a motorcycle confiscated by one of these stops. I bet you change your tune. I’m not a complacent idiot and in fact, I’m likely more “extreme right” than most of you.

    However, in this instance, you all feel like you are singled out as the bad guy but NO ONE is looking at the other side of it. I guess I hit a few nerves when I stated that you only have something to worry about if you are doing something wrong. If they bust one person with a stolen engine or one drunk idiot on a motorcycle it’s a win for me. That doesn’t make me stupid, it makes me a parent who doesn’t wan their kid killed on the road and it makes me a motorcycle owner that doesn’t want by 88″ on someone else’s frame.

    Before you even say “but a motorcycle won’t kill someone…” yes it will and they have check points for everyone. Do they not do sobriety checkpoints all over the US? Do they not do car seat checkpoints. Hell, they do insurance checkpoints to catch scumbags without insurance.

    You all want to act like you are above everyone else and BECAUSE you ride a motorcycle, the police must leave you alone. You have a motor and wheels, expect to be a target. If the article said “We are pulling over every motorcycle just to check noise pollution” Then I would be pissed. This is just not the case with this though.

  55. 55 KSW Feb 14th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Use the link.

    Go to the Business Guide section then click on Government Officials.

    Use their email and send them a message.

    Hope that helps.

  56. 56 Mark Pavlica Feb 14th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    There is strength in numbers and it sounds like we have numbers. Are they really going to try and stop 50 bikers, 100, 200. Get together brothers and ride by and smile.

  57. 57 deadwood1783 Feb 14th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Hell, they do insurance checkpoints to catch scumbags without insurance. ???? Zyon, you make freedom loving men sick. Scumbags without insurance,,,now there is a dangerous group. Meth labs all over the country, millions of illegal aliens pouring in and SOMEONE thinks it important to hassle people who ride motorcycles just because they ride motorcycles. Geeez!!! Unbelieveable!!

  58. 58 Mark Pavlica Feb 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Hey Deadwood don’t be too hard on Zyon he is still in his fantasy world, he believes that our government does what they do because they care about us and want us to be happy. LOL

  59. 59 Hark Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I think many are missing the point…Cyril…thank you for this update, it is an advance warning for those headed to have a good time in the Daytona Area….I can offer more advice to many of you. Why do you spend so much time in Daytona…Central Florida is a riding Heaven. Lake County and Marion County Florida have some of the best riding in the state. If you stay in Lake County you are only 60 miles from Daytona and your room rate will be around $80.00 per night..where if you stay close to Main Street Daytona you will spend hundreds per night. The money saved and the riding you will gain will make your stay a lot more fun. So many put thier bikes on a trailor and head south..they grab the closest room they can get to Main Street…when they pack up and leave they might have put 50 miles on thier bike. Get out and ride…enjoy new sites, find new roads. I highly recommend Sugar Loaf Mountain which is in the Hill Country of Lake County…Head to Astatulla on 561…then into the hills, Ranches, Orange Groves, nothing but great wide open roads.


  60. 60 zyon Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    I think the government is full of idiots and we are going to hell quickly. Again, I am likely more rightwing than most but I can comprehend that a basic traffic stop is not the end all of your rights.

    Deadwood, have you ever been smacked by someone who doesn’t have insurance? You think the government does not have the right to force insurance but obviously you think people don’t have the social obligation to cover themselves.

    I have been hit by an uninsured idiot and it cost me a ton of money. My insurance paid for it and then jacked my rates. Do you know how much you pay each year to cover idiots who choose not to insure themselves? Likely you do not. If you did, you would think every uninsured motorist was a scumbag too, unless you are one of them. I pay to insure my cars, my property and my motorcycle (which is $1,200 a year just for the bike)

    This conversation is stupid. Every person is subject to road stops, not just guys on motorcycles. You all act like the world is against you and only you! I understand it is an infringement on your rights to privacy but you all would rather sit on some low grade blog and bitch and moan instead of acting on your passion.

    if you feel this strongly about it, pitch a tent on the side of I95 and freaking protest. Stop in washington on your way down there and speak to your representatives. Get off your ass… and stop acting like you make one bit of a difference by bitching on some blog.

  61. 61 BadMonkeyMW Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Zyon, I’m curious. Which part of Nazi Germany did your ancestors come from? You’re a sad excuse for an American and a man. Back to the herd, little sheep.

  62. 62 deadwood1783 Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Zyon. Just so we are clear. I have 4 motorcycles and all are insured. I am not just sitting here bitching either. I have contacted my elected officials and have emailed all my friends urging them to do the same. They do not stop motorcycles only at sobriety and DL checkpoints. Can you really not see the difference? This is police state crap. Pure an simple totalitarianism. “Any man who would give up one ounce of liberty for one pound of safety deserves to be neither safe nor free.”

  63. 63 just my opinion Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    There is two sides to every coin. One side of this issue is an invasion of privacy. Yes it is a pain in the ass to be stopped and asked for license and IDs But the other side is that if the cops are stopped from doing their job than the next thing you know we will have drunks driving around as they please and killing innocent drivers. So the question becomes where do we draw the line. Do we say everyone is free to do as they please even if we know that some of those idiots will get drunk or do drugs and drive resulting in the death of an innocent bystander? Or do we have laws that prevent some of those drunk driving accidents. We cannot have it both ways. Every country has laws and yes some of those laws seem to be invasive but the laws are there to prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. Common sense and experience has told the cops that some people think just because they are going to Daytona that they should start the party at home and continue that party all the way there and back. That is why the cops want to stop motorcycle riders on their way to Daytona. It is not some conspirocy to get info about riders. If you are one of those stupid people you will likely have a problem with every law. If you are one of the many people with some common sense this law may piss you off but in the end you will have to agree that even tho it is a pain in the ass it may be neccisary to stop some of the idiots that think it is their God given right to drink and drive even if the end result is the death of some one else.
    In a perfect world we would have no need for laws that allow stopping people at random, but then again if it were a perfect world people would not be getting hit by drunk drivers daily and dying as a result of the drunks and their lack of intelligents. One more thing, it sure seems funny to me how some of you get so worked up about these dui check points but will go to the airport and stand in line to be checked with no problems. Is it not the same thing? We have check points at the airport to make our flights safe so why should we allow drunks to drive down our roads free to kill other drivers?

  64. 64 DK Feb 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    With the powert of the internet and email, no one has an excuse for not alerting the congressmen and senators from their state about this situtation. Voting as a block of one regardless of what kind of two wheels you ride is the solution. The only thing politicians respond to is the fear of not being elected again.

  65. 65 rc Feb 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    for your consideration/discussion:

    “Personal liberty, or the right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the Federal Constitution, and which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable rights; as sacred as the right of private property; or as occupying a preferred position as contrasted with property rights; and is regarded as inalienable.” 16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.

    The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, “It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized.” In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that “it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, … it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all.” It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

    The U.S. Supreme Court also dealt with the right to travel in the case of Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489 (1999). In that case, Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, held that the United States Constitution protected three separate aspects of the right to travel among the states: the right to enter one state and leave another, the right to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than a hostile stranger (protected by the “privileges and immunities” clause in Article IV, § 2), and (for those who become permanent residents of a state) the right to be treated equally to native born citizens (this is protected by the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause).

    (NOTE 1 this does not included trucks that are conducting commerce over publicly paid for roadways. As the taxpayer must pay for the upkeep of the roads those engaged in interstate commerce are obliged to pay their share)

    (NOTE 2 the right of a citizen to freely enter or leave any state is prohibited. Therefor an argument can be made that a checkpoint to detain persons from crossing a state border could be argued in court. Keep in mind this would not apply to vehicles engaged in commerce)

    The Supreme Court also held that individuals in automobiles have a reduced expectation of privacy, because vehicles generally do not serve as residences or repositories of personal effects. Vehicles may not be randomly stopped and searched; there must be probable cause or reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.

    The government may not detain an individual even momentarily without reasonable and articulable suspicion, with a few exceptions.
    Where society’s need is great and no other effective means of meeting the need is available, and intrusion on people’s privacy is minimal, checkpoints toward that end may briefly detain motorists. In Michigan v. Sitz 496 U.S. 444 (1990), the Supreme Court allowed discretionless sobriety checkpoints. In United States v. Martinez-Fuerte 428 U.S. 543 (1976), the Supreme Court allowed discretionless immigration checkpoints. In Illinois v. Lidster 540 U.S. 419 (2004), the Supreme Court allowed focused informational checkpoints. However, discretionary checkpoints or general crime-fighting checkpoints are not allowed.[

    (NOTE, here one would have to ask, if it is a “sobriety check point” why are not all vehicles stopped)
    (Note informational checkpoint: The stop’s primary law enforcement purpose was not to determine whether a vehicle’s occupants were committing a crime, but to ask vehicle occupants, as members of the public, for their help in providing information about a crime in all likelihood committed by others)

    Profiling and discrimination are also problems the TSA runs up against. So we can assume, but don’t bet your ass on it,

    That any stop involving motorcycles only
    Any stop involving individuals wearing “Biker Gear” only
    could be profiling and/or discriminatory
    and it would be an us against them scenario

    However if they stop random motorcyclists
    Then it is individual against them.

    Profiling is against the in Florida, Check Ga. statute
    Most state laws will not apply here as these are constitutional questions

    As we all know, fourth amendment rights have been almost destroyed over the years.
    That does not mean we do not continue to fight for them.

    legally a group with signs should be able to assemble and protest as long as they do not interfere with the officer
    Persons stationed at exits ahead of identified checkpoints could hold warning signs

    either/or I can find no evidence that motorcycle only check points only are not singling out one segment of the population
    which I beleive would be unconstitutional.

    But then I am not an attorney


  66. 66 Switch Feb 14th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Just a higher class version of ripping off the tourists. Lived in southeast GA for 3 yrs. while in the Navy in the late ’60’s. No freeways in GA @ that time. They stopped @ the north and south borders so the economies of the small towns wouldn’t go to hell. I had out of state plates for a while. Wised up after meeting all the Justice of Peace along US 17.”Do I get a ticket and go on my way, Sir?” ” No sir, just procede to the JP’s house down the road here. That’s me in your mirror sir.” Remember to say “Sir” back and carry CASH. Only place I’ve been in jail.(No cash) Only place I was broadsided at an intersection where I had the right of way (really!) and had it be my fault. I was informed of this @ my home by the ladies husband – a state senator. No insurance money that time.

  67. 67 TigerLily Feb 14th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    The idea that law enforcers will not use this motorcycle-only checkpoint as a means to gather data is wrong. I saw with my own eyes the unlawful detainment of motorcyclists who were WALKING. The only reason they were being detained is because the law enforcers did not recognize their patch. Here’s that story – see the pics at the end and I have audio to support my interviews with the law enforcers involved. Caught them RED HANDED!

  68. 68 TigerLily Feb 14th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Patrolling the old fashioned way is 3 times more productive than via checkpoints. Checkpoints are NOT about safety, they are very costly, inefficient, and it’s serve to domination government over We the People and it is a dog and pony show to make people “feel” safe.

    “Out of the 1,637 vehicles that were screened, 45 were sent to a secondary screening. There were no arrests for DUIs at the checkpoint, but a motorist elsewhere was arrested for DUI by a roving unit. One driver was cited and released for being in possession of marijuana, 21 vehicles were impounded, five drivers had suspended licenses and 16 drivers did not have a driver’s license.”

    LYNDSAY WINKLEY –, North County Times – The Californian

  69. 69 ROGUE Feb 15th, 2011 at 7:10 am

    RC posted some detailed information on his site I am sure all will find interesting,

  70. 70 Richard Landry Feb 15th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    They can’t cover every road. A need to find out where they will be and then ride around the check point like the truckers do or at least did. Possibly Rte 1 or 41 would be clear.

  71. 71 deadwood1783 Feb 15th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    So,,,,are you suggesting we should have to hide in our own country? Not because we are criminals but because we ride motorcycles and do not wish to submit to an Authoritarian government run amock.

  72. 72 rc Feb 15th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    “They can’t cover every road. A need to find out where they will be and then ride around the check point like the truckers do or at least did. Possibly Rte 1 or 41 would be clear.”

    Deadwood nails it. The reason the government can now be so blatant with rights violations is because for to long we have not confronted them.

    Our government has a history of ignoring us until confronted with their abuses.
    Civil rights
    Womans suffrage
    getting out of vietnam
    Tea party

    Whether one agrees with any of the above social movements or not, I would be willing to bet people hitting the streets has created more change than any letter to a representative

    A recent comment let on my site:

    have never owned a bike in my life, but support the free and unfettered libety of those that do. It has been a right of man ALWAYS to travel unmolested from the day of birth. It was first put into law in 1279 in the Magna Carta and isw still on the books. It was continued with our 4th and 5th Amendments, the Bill of Rights. Without freedom and liberty there is no security.

    This person gets it!

    Hopefully, if ABATE of Georgia is unsuccessful at helping legislators see the light we can get dates times and locations. Filming of these stops would be imperative to insure that other rights are not violated.


  73. 73 Hark Feb 21st, 2011 at 8:54 am

    The Biggest Laugh I get out of Bike Week Is This…SIGNS HANGING SAYING {BIKERS WELCOME} The next thing you see when you walk into a bar….NO COLORS ALLOWED. Cracks me up everytime. It is the same nearly everywhere you go, nearly every bike event is the same…Except One…Leesburg Bikefest in early April. Last year nearly 300,000 attended. This event has grown into the largest 3 day motorcycle event in the world. Lake County Florida is about as biker a friendly area as you will ever find.


  74. 74 Poppymann Feb 22nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Here’s my question. I chopped my signals and I passed inspection.
    It’s not required in my state. If I go to another state, they can’t enforse their “safety” crap can they?

  75. 75 kdiddy707 Mar 9th, 2011 at 2:39 am

    People like zyon are the reason we’re all so screwed. The right to free travel IS constitutionally guaranteed. BTW nobody wants your POS 88″ and if they did they could just take it because you probably don’t believe in property rights, the right to self protection, or the right to bear arms. I fully support your right to say what you like here although spreading your sheep mentality threatens my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

  76. 76 Driver Nov 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    The ignorance on here is unbelievable. If you are doing nothing illegal, then there should be no problems. On the other hand, if you are doing something illegal, for example carrying drugs on your bike or obstructing with law enforcement, you can kiss all your rights good bye (except maybe your miranda rights). Maybe I should inform you, since I frequently take horses in and out of Florida, that the agricultural checkpoint’s purpose is to only check that you have the necessary documents for bringing your horse in the state. It’s a matter of controlling disease, not invading privacy. And trust me, you can wait for days, but they won’t let you through if you don’t have the papers. As for the bike inspections, who knows the real reason for it, but it sounds truly like they are just going to look at license, registration, possibly proof of insurance, and just generally working order. How exactly is that an invasion of privacy? Those are required by LAW. Go ahead and boycott the state if you disagree. We certainly don’t need more idiots down here!

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