The New Crocker Motorcycle

I know… Some will be enthusiastic while others will never consider a new Crocker a genuine Crocker motorcycle. If you wish, you can start the debate right now in “comments” At least, if you can be there, go to see this “Reborn Crocker”exhibited for the first time at the LA Calendar Motorcycle Show & Concours on July 22nd 2012 (at the Calabasas Inn, 23500 Park Sorrento, Calabasas, CA 91302,at the Valley Circle Exit off Hwy 101 at the west end of the San Fernando Valley.). And if you can’t wait to know more about this new Crocker, go to Crocker Motorcycle Company.

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37 Responses to “The New Crocker Motorcycle”


  1. 1 GuitarSlinger Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Well ….. in spite of all the negative rumors surrounding the business practices etc of the current owners of the brand ……. despite what will no doubt be the OTT , vulgar and exorbitant price they’ll most likely be charging …….. regardless of what all the ‘ Purists ‘ may say about it ………….. this ‘ New ‘ Crocker is ;

    One Mighty Fine Looking Ride 😉

    Two Thumbs Up ! With a bullet ( music business term wouldn’t you know )

    8)

  2. 2 Donnie Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Price?

  3. 3 Troll Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Unlike the “NEW INDIAN”, this actually looks like a Crocker, not a dolled up softail…Or that abortive attempt with the super X…one hideous motorcycle…Of course, there is always the kiwi Indian…

  4. 4 courtney Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Agree, this a beautiful bike. But as GS mentioned, I expect this bike to be priced wayyy out of my range.

    Oh well, I’ll happily stick with my (silver) Crossbones for now (which admittedly wasn’t exactly cheap either, lol). However, If I ever decide to spend tens of thousands on a bike that looks old, I’ll buy an antique bike that is old.

  5. 5 Jackson Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Crocker’s website says nothing about a new Motorcycle, and the only parts they show are a few tail lights

  6. 6 GuitarSlinger Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Price for the ‘ new ‘ Crocker ?

    Lets see now . The ‘ new’ Brough Superior is in excess of $100K . The Irving Vincent is about the same .

    So……… I’ll guess somewhere between $50K and $100K for the ‘new ‘ Crocker when it becomes available

  7. 7 Brett Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Troll…how do you know what the “NEW INDIAN” even looks like? Polaris hasn’t put it out yet….still many months away from a new Indian.

  8. 8 Rodent Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    This is not its debut, Saw in and heard it at Quail in Carmel Valley over a month ago. Just sounds like a normal Crocker!

  9. 9 Kirkland Jun 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Unbelievable. A complete motor. Surely the price surpasses a 1946 replica knuckle’s cost, at individual retail-part prices (plus parts returns, plus stress, plus the unknown).

    If we weren’t going to be at the Hotel Del on Coronado on the 22nd, we would be there. Congratulations on your taillight and the other parts (like how many are in that OHV top end. Bunches.).
    Sounds good when entering your site. 🙂
    Just really great – for the “mechanical-look-like-it could-kill-you” set.

  10. 10 nicker Jun 6th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    RE:
    “….Reborn Crocker….”

    Noe, Reborn, Copy, NOS rebuild…. whatever…..
    If its got spokes, a drive chain, hand shift, foot clutch, burns gas & oil (without ABS)…… its a keeper..!!!!

    Our world needs a new “line-in-the-sand.”
    A new demarcation between “ordinary” and “extra-ordinary.”
    Between the “expected” and the “unexpected.”
    Between the “inclusive” and the “exclusive.”

    If your ride is hand-shift, foot-clutch, Kick-start only, well that’ll make it about as exclusive as you can get in today’s world.
    Hell, that’s what Dos Equis should put in their “most interesting man in the world add”….. 🙂

    -nicker-

  11. 11 Dave Blevins Jun 7th, 2012 at 1:24 am

    I think it looks great, and appears to maintain the classic look, much as a Kiwi Indian does for its type.
    I think it is cool that someone loves the old brands enough to keep them alive and viable… after all, there are only a certain number of authentic “barn finds” to be had.
    Seems a fine notion to me, hope they do well.

  12. 12 Andrew Jun 7th, 2012 at 3:03 am

    If ‘hand-shift, foot-clutch, kick-start only’ ride is what it takes to stand out, I think I’m ready to blend in…

  13. 13 Dog Williams Jun 7th, 2012 at 7:13 am

    Just as Troll stated, regardless of cost, company situation, whatever . . . damn, it looks like a bloody Crocker in every way, outstanding bit of retro chic. Hope it and ‘they’ do well.

  14. 14 BobS Jun 7th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Why go fast in comfort with no breakdowns and little maintenance when you could be a real badass biker and be stuck on the side of the road with a smoking, leaking, broke down piece of junk that hardly ever starts? Yeah these new bikes suck.

  15. 15 Seymour Jun 7th, 2012 at 8:22 am

    Seems like a faithful reproduction, great job. Wonder what the modern style Crockers will look like? : )

  16. 16 Crocker Motorcycle Company Jun 7th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Cyril,
    Thanks for the post! As always your blog draws interesting comments. For those who know what they see and appreciate it, we thank you for that as it is part of what drives us. After years of learning curves and shareholder issues we are just glad to finally be here with what is considered by experts to be an absolutely true to original Big Tank Crocker. Engineered, and internally updated with modern metallurgy and modern tolerances, built by hand and designed to ride and last. Note: There are approximately 100 different patterns needed to produce all the cast parts of this machine.

    It has been quite the labor of love and and amazing adventure recreating the original Crocker Small and Big Tank models. They will continue to be rare as we will be producing them in limited production. Completely and proudly made in the USA!

    Michael Schacht
    Crocker Motorcycle Company

    P.S. Cyril, call us when you are down here and come over for a test ride!

  17. 17 B'COOL Products Jun 7th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Hey Michael. Looks like it is finally all coming together for you. Congratulations. We wish you nothing but the best with the Crocker brand and complete builds.
    Randy Briley
    B’COOL Products

  18. 18 Jeff in GA Jun 7th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Great blog, Cyril. Hi Michael. Congrats as well! I’m curious to know what the price range of the new Big Tank model Crockers will be too.

  19. 19 Kirkland Jun 7th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Speaking for all of us, we’d like to see the Crocker run on a 4-minute video. Hear it run through the gears.
    Come ‘awn….. we’re all we’ve got.

    Show the people that can’t make Calabasas what the Crocker can do – and be a draw to the event.

  20. 20 Crocker Motorcycle Co Jun 7th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Kirkland,

    4 minutes is a long video! We will get a fresh 30-45 sec clip to Cyril very soon for posting. Check out our Crocker Motorcycle Facebook page. You might find a little something there.
    Thanks for all the support!
    BR
    Crocker Team

  21. 21 Rodent Jun 7th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Sure would like to see it again at Pebble Beach during the Concours which features the finest vehicles in the world.

  22. 22 SteveO Jun 7th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Congratulations on winning the “Industry Award” at Quail this year! Well deserved. The bike is amazing and sounds SICK.

  23. 23 nicker Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    RE:
    “…go fast in comfort with no breakdowns and little maintenance…”
    “.. I’m .ready to blend in….”

    Well, ya… if that’s all you want out of motorcycling (“to Blend in”) then fine go buy a “production” bike. Hell, the Global OEMs all produce fine products.

    But if you want to experience the true legacy of the American Biker, then you would be seeking a custom, exclusive experience…….. not “blending in.”

    RE:
    “….broke down piece of junk that hardly ever starts?…”

    Ah yes, that would be the typical “newbee – rebel without a clue”…. perspective. …. 🙂

    -nicker-

  24. 24 Garlic Indian Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Sorry Crocker, not trying to steal this thread… Excellent looking re-born Crocker.. can’t wait to see and hear it in person!

    Thanks Brett for jumping on the Troll post… as a new era Indian Motorcycle owner (Gilroy) to be exact, what I don’t understand are comments like Troll’s regarding the re-born Indian Motorcycle.

    Looking at today’s current HD’s, do they look anything like the old HD?

    Why can’t a mordern era Indian look like what was produced in Gilroy CA or Kings Mountain NC? HD isn’t producing a MC as they looked like back in the day.

    Just don’t understand some of the hater’s that can’t except other and all brands..

    Proud Gilroy Indian Motorcycle owner who still likes HD’s….

  25. 25 OG Jun 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    I appreciate the complexity of re-casting an old classic, but a new rider it is not. I ride old motorcycles and the most important part is being able to get parts when they break, and they will break. I witnessed this motorcycle unveiling in Quail and I am sad to say they had to use rollers to start it. With at least 4 people there representing Crocker how come no one could kick start it?
    And if you are gong to re-make a motorcycle why wouldn’t you make some modern upgrades, I am sure this engine is capable of much more than a 1930″s designed transmission. They should have called Baker in for that one.

  26. 26 Kirkland Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    “They should have called Baker in for that one.”
    •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
    Call Baker now. Git it right, no matter what it costs. The bike is already priced in the ether zone, whats another couple or four grand?

  27. 27 BobS Jun 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “But if you want to experience the true legacy of the American Biker, then you would be seeking a custom, exclusive experience…….. not “blending in.””
    You are perfectly free to buy a motorcycle for showing off, that’s cool, do what you want. I buy motorcycles to ride them.

  28. 28 Mike C Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Bob S and OG obviously have a burr up their asses regarding the Crocker Company. Is it some insider knowledge they both and want to share to protect us potential consumers or is it just the usual peanut gallery needing to be heard in an anonymous setting so they can knock what they most likely could never do in real life. Creating a complete motorcycle is an incredible feat by any standard. I too was at the Quail, saw the Crocker run and watched a huge croud of motorcycle aficionados cheer and applaud. I have no doubt the new Crocker can be kick started. It has already proven that it starts and runs well.

  29. 29 Kirkland Jun 10th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    Owning a Crocker would get you laid even if it didn’t run. 🙂
    Make no mistake, this is an incredible collection of parts. I cobbled together a replica motorcycle and it was time consuming and I fought with it every increment of the build. If one little thing was wrong, it took the devil to get it right, and at one time I had different three things wrong, all working against each other.
    The biggest ghost I had to chase was the intake manifold leak. It’s symptoms are hard starting and rough idle and then for no reason stop running like a switch was turned off.
    You should have a manifold tester available for the Crocker.
    This is the one for the 4-bolt Linkert. Pretty simple construction.

    http://vintagetwin.com/topic.php?id=167#post-375

  30. 30 BobS Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Mike C wtf??? Show me one sentence where I dissed the Crocker? I have nothing against old bikes and am quite fond of visiting all the old Indians and Harleys in Anamosa, IA. I did dis a previous claim that implied if it didn’t hand shift, foot clutch, and burn oil it wasn’t good. Damn don’t be so sensitive.

  31. 31 Crocker Motorcycle Co Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    We appreciate all the opinions on Cyril’s blog either way although it is clear to us that there are some of you out there that do not understand our point. Our original goal was to create both the Big and Small models of this coveted and reasonably rare machine exactly as it was in 1936-42 using all Al Crocker’s later updated (1940) improving on metallurgy, tolerances and internal parts while keeping 100% of the original look right down to spoke heads and foundry numbers / marks on the parts. As all Crocker’s were “bench jobs” back in the day, we have also been standardizing as many parts as we can as to interchange with originals and provide those owners with replacement parts. We have sold numerous parts to original owners including complete transmissions and clutches and have been dedicated to the purity of the originals for these two original type bikes. They are not meant for the “new” riders and never were.
    Please note we have tested and ran our Big Tank up to 45mph in first gear with success. Our goal was to create a true Crocker using all the advantages we have today to make a great machine even better keeping ALL the integrity.

    P.S. We like Burt Baker and will be consulting with him regarding transmissions on the modern Crocker we are currently planning.

  32. 32 Jim Gianatsis / FastDates.com Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    The 2012 LA Calendar Motorcycle Show is excited to feature Michael Schacht’s new Crocker Motor at this year’s July 22nd Show.
    The bike may have made earlier un announced appearances at some other events like last month’s Quail Gathering in Carmel, but this is this first time new Crocker’s showing has been actively announced to the media and pubic in advance of an appearance, and hence justifies the description “World Premier”.

    The Calendar Show will also be featuring exclusive new bike premiers from many Top Builders including : Shinya Kimura • Richard Pollock • Chris Redwing • Jim Giuffra • Russell Mitchell – so mark your calendar now to attend.

    Special mention and congratulations go to Russell Mitchell / Exile Cycles who will be making his first Show appearance with a new build in America in a number of years. And the weekend following the LA Calendar Show, Russell will be marrying his long-time girlfriend Rachel in a beautiful ceremony on a nearby Malibu beach. Best wishes to them!

    Jim Gianatsis, producer, LA Calendar Motorcycle Show & FastDates.com Calendars

  33. 33 Kirkland Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    “P.S. We like Burt Baker and will be consulting with him regarding transmissions on the modern Crocker we are currently planning.”
    •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
    Stockholder’s like that kinda stuff. These are great times for early OHV, OHC, F-head. 🙂

  34. 34 nicker Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Bob,

    RE:
    “… buy a motorcycle for showing off…”

    In that case, about the only thing to “show off” would be the ability to pay.
    -No-
    One buys any type-a art to appreciate it, not to show it off.
    Only posers buy stuff to show off.

    RE:
    ” if it didn’t hand shift, foot clutch, and burn oil it wasn’t good…”

    No one said that.
    Your missing the point.

    Look, “good” (or bad) isn’t the issue.
    It’s about experiencing the legacy.
    If all your doing is “… buy[ing] motorcycles to ride them…” your missing out on half the deal.

    It’s about creating cool stuff and riding the snot out of it.
    That’s the legacy.

    IMHO
    -nicker-

  35. 35 BobS Jun 12th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Ok nicker, I got you now. In that case I got my other half of the deal and legacy out of the way back in the 80’s. Been there done that bought the t-shirt. And used it to clean up the mess on the garage floor. Yes, it was fun but now I like to look at the old bikes and ride the new ones. If we all wanted the same thing it wouldn’t be near as fun right?

  36. 36 nicker Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    \RE:
    “…the t-shirt……. used it to clean up the mess on the garage floor…”

    Ya, got a plastic bucket full of old “Ts” for just those occasions….. 🙂

    -nicker-

  37. 37 SB Aug 29th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    I’ve been following this new Crocker for a while, nicely done. I’m sure it will be out of my price range though. As for the new Polaris/Indian…I’ve been told by a dealer that for two years, they have to keep it the same. After that I’m afraid that it will look like something George Jensen would ride. I hope not.

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