2012 Sturgis AMD World Championship Of Bike Building. Final Results.

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  1. 1 Doug Aug 9th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Can someone tell me what part of the AFT bike is a Performance Bike besides the RaceTech suspension and the Beringer caliper?

    motor?
    chassis?

    I thought the AMD had credibility.

  2. 2 Eric Maurer Aug 9th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    anyone know how many bikes were in each class? Just curious if its a …. you entered, you get 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, etc…. or were there more bikes competing than trophies/places?

    for instance…. in the Freestye class – were there more than 10 bikes competing for 1st – 10th place? Same for the other classes.

    Just curious.

  3. 3 Jose Aug 9th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I visited the show. There was a total of 46 bikes in the show (I counted), probably less than half last year. In the Freestyle class about 25 bikes. In some classes, no more than 4 or 5. Cyril may have the exact numbers for confirmation.

  4. 4 Jason Hallman (Steelchoppin) Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Can’t say I would appreciate the ride on that bike but I can appreciate the craftsmanship. I think that the attrition in the economy and subsequently in the industry only means that there has been a clearing house of sorts in the types of builders and bikes showcased in a show like this. There is definitely a solid push towards earlier styles. I for one completely dislike most of what I see lately but only aesthetically. The attention to detail is excellent.

  5. 5 Gautam Aug 9th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    There is a Bike #061 so hoping that there were at least that many.

  6. 6 Flying Piston Aug 10th, 2012 at 3:46 am

    The 2012 AMD results have not been published yet so not sure how many entries. For 2011 there were 43 bikes.

  7. 7 Renegade Classics Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:02 am

    Congrats to Jim at AFT customs. Incrediable job. Nicest guy in the world. Way to represent USA and Northern Cali.

  8. 8 Tom Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Néeto. …:-) :-)

  9. 9 Gar Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    I notice every bike is built by a ‘company’. Not one individual builder. In the old days it was ALL individual builders. I agree with other poster great ‘craftsmanship’ but mostly unridable,UGLY BIKES.

  10. 10 TPJ Customs Aug 10th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Hey gar

    Most of the builders in there are individual builders but we do have company names also to make a living. I am a one man show and I know of a bunch more that slave on there bikes all alone for hours. Hope that helps. Again congrats to all builders. Enjoy your work.

  11. 11 Ronnie Aug 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Talked to Cyril in Sturgis. He will feature the winners. I guess that the negative will disappear when he will show you all the details. I saw all the bikes. Fabulous custom work.

  12. 12 Doug Aug 10th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Jim at AFT may be a great guy, but that’s totally irrelevant in terms of an objective bike competition.

    A Performance Class should be judged primarily on the bikes’ motor & chassis construction, while also factoring in the intended type of performance.

    There is absolutely NO negativity when questioning the results of this Performance Class.

    The AMD’s credibility for the Performance Class will be questioned when all of the bikes entered into that class are published.

    This is a real shame because the performance-side of custom motorcycles can be as exciting as the Free-style class; maybe even more exciting since Performance bikes are expected to be ridden hard, not just admired sitting there.

  13. 13 AFT Customs Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Hey Doug – glad you asked. Thanks for noticing the Race Tech susp front & rear. This bike will be raced on the salt flats at the BUB event.The motor has a base gaskets up top end that was narrowed 2″ with custom valve covers made by AFT. Each v-cover has a breather we designed (stock comes with one)which added 1 hp. We make an engine kit which produces 25% more HP & the heads are ported & polished.Clutch is by Barnett. The radiator is under the seat. Rims are aluminum with custom spokes laced by us. Brakes & Controls are by Beringer. Ignition by Dynatek.The frame is from a Honda cruiser which we modified. We disigned the Leo Vince muffler for Leo Vince & made this unit which is a prototype. All of the body work is hand formed aluminum except the tank. The front fender turned out so well a lot of people thought it was a plastic super moto fender untill we pointed out the welds underneith.The bike weighs 415 wet which is light for a water cooled v-twin.The judges at AMD are the builders & some VIP media. They recognized the performance aspects of this bike & like that it could be “ridden hard” (your words)in the mountains where it lives, Ridden to the Salt Flats (it’s street legal), raced on the Salt & then ridden home.It’s a street legal race bike. When we pulled it out of AMD I took it through Spearfish Canyon at speeds exceeding 100mph with one of the AFT girls on the back. One of the AFT Girls will race it at Bonneville. Still think it’s not a performance motorcycle?
    Congrats to all the other winners especially the Americans. We enjoyed spending time with all of you & loved your bikes.

  14. 14 AFT Customs Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Hey Doug – one more thing. These bikes are also judged on design, fit & finish,vision and engineering.

  15. 15 Doug Aug 12th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    Motorcycles have been able to break the ton for awhile, so that does not make it a performance motorcycle.

    I’ve never seen a front fender like that (and mounted like that) on a modern-era Bonneville racer for good reason.

    “Hey Doug – one more thing. These bikes are also judged on design, fit & finish,vision and engineering.”

    right.

    On another note:
    The AMD can’t hire their own models for interviewing & posing with other winners? LMAO!

  16. 16 TPJ Customs Aug 12th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Doug you do talk a lot of shit without a link to see your work. Let’s check out your perfect machine.

  17. 17 Jeffrey Najar Aug 12th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Interview with the World Champ… http://youtu.be/AAbyCHjvLgg

  18. 18 Biker Pros Aug 12th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    To see all the bikes and here what the builders have to say, go to YouTube, AMDChampionship, http://www.youtube.com/user/AMDChampionship?feature=mhee

  19. 19 AFT Customs Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Everyone is getting a lot of laughs over your ignorance Doug. That fender is for street use . AMA rules specify a fender no farther away from the tire than 1.75 in. which we have fabricated & will use. The chain guard isn’t legal either – surprised your keen eye didn’t notice that – oh right – you’re smack talking a bike you haven’t seen in person. We built a versatile m/c for the times we live in like it used to be -you rode to the track – raced – rode home. Our peers that voted for this bike understood that.
    About AMD hiring the AFT Girls – They hired them because they have their act together & they are the only modeling agency in the world that builds custom bikes. Think long & hard before you ridicule them because they have taken classes (welding,metal shaping,painting, & soon to take a machining work shop) from some of the icons in this industry which is well known in the builder community. This is their hobby & they love it.
    On another note – We didn’t build this with the intention of winning at AMD. It won’t set a record at Bonneville either because there isn’t a class for overhead cam v-twins so it runs against in line 4’s. We built it on a small budget & to have fun as did our competitors in the show. Times are tough for us all. There was a 3 way tie for first place. They decided the tie by how many 1st place votes each bike got .We got 17, Our good friend Steve “the Brew Dude” got 13 & 3rd place got 11. I would of felt no shame in losing to either of these craftsman.

  20. 20 Doug Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Looks like The best builders in the world cant take criticism.

    I objectively stated your bike is not a performance bike which says nothing of the craftsmanship, positively or negatively. In addition to all of the components you stated above, you also stated it ‘exceeded 100 mph with a passenger’ and therefore you think it is a performance bike. Big fucking deal. It uses a 750cc liquid cooled twin from 2001. Brew’s cafe, on the other hand, probably did not have as easy of a time breaking the ton as a stock bike, but it does now. The chassis mods & motor mods he’s done reflect performance. I don’t need to see your bike in person to know its not a performance bike worthy of a win in a performance category, especially considering the other bikes that were entered, (even if those other bikes had hot girls working on them too). Similarly, anyone can spot a bobber, 70s chop, etc.

    Since you mentioned all of the details of your bike and since you did not mention the 3rd place finisher, below are the details of that bike. I did see this bike in person at Cannery Row the night before the MotoGP race.

    After talking with Curt Winter from BTR Moto that night here is what he accomplished by himself:

    1. took a Twin Cam motor and built his own transmission for it.
    2. Built his own transmission case, oil tank, gas tank, swing arm, and various structural parts to make the twin cam damn near a unit-construction piece with the trans case.
    3. Used a vertical intake for the Weber.
    4. Built his own frame (not a modified cruiser frame).
    5. All of the above construction was mated to a GSX-R front fork and a Ducati 999 rear suspension.

    The result is a bike that has virtually identical geometry of the production race replicas (24.5 degree rake & a 55.25 inch wheelbase) using a HD Twin Cam motor!! He did the paint himself, too.

    If you read my post correctly I was not ridiculing the girls (re-read it). I think it’s cool you are training them on welding & metal fabrication, but If the AMD is such a professional deal, they might consider in the future that there is an appearance of a conflict of interest by having them hired while still being a competitor. That is so simple and basic in any professionally run contest. Notice I said “appearance”.

    Laugh all you want dude. You entered the bike as a “BR” (Bonneville Racer) with THAT fender.

    I didn’t make this personal at all because there’s no need for it in a performance class. The Brew cafe/race bike, the track day bike from BTR, and the jump bike* represent performance that should not have been beaten with a modified Honda cruiser with custom body work and head work that amounts to 50 HP (per BikerNet stats). TPJ Customs – you’d say the same thing if you entered that cool Buell super motard in the performance class. That would have been a great line-up, btw.

    * for those that don’t know, there was a jump bike entered that uses an Ultima 127″ evo motor. This bike was successfully jumped by 300+ pound Big Ed Beckley. Also Built by Curt Winter.

  21. 21 AFT Customs Aug 13th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    It’s clear now that this is sour grapes because the BTR bikes didn’t win.. People like you come on these sites under an anomouse name & bash everyones hard work. We ‘re all fed up with it & we’re gonna call you on it. You don’t see the builders pulling this crap. We have 11 corporate sponsors on this bike & it was entered to advertise for them .We didn’t come to Sturgis expecting to place based on previous years entries. BTR’s bikes were nicely done. I told him that to his face & spent a lot of time looking at them. Steve is a friend & his bike was really cool. The bike we built is a street legal bike that will be raced on the salt.That was how it was done years ago. We showed what you could do with an economical motorcycle because not everyone in this economy has the funds for ground up builds. Younger riders especially. They need to use an economical bike as their platform.That was our target market especially. Those engines only have 37 hp to start with so to pull 100 with a passenger on a canyon rd with traffic & cops everywhere shows it ‘s not a slug. Big engines don’t define performance. You don’t get that. The front fender is for street use & I could care less if you like it or anyone else for that matter. If the rules allowed it I would use it because it’s a street legal bike. I’m leaving the lisence plate on too. Can BTR ride his bikes to the track – race- & ride home? Bonneville has many classes with all sizes of engines. It’s about getting the most out of what you start with. Anyone can buy a big engine. We build ours from the bottom up. You don’t know what AMD competitors look for. Bonneville is huge to all of us . It’s the last pure form of racing. Educate yourself on the AMD mindset before you critique. because it makes you look foolish. Your last post shows that your friends of BTR & pissed he didn’t win. I admire your loyalty to him. Over 80 votes were cast. Don’t blame me for the outcome . Putting a radiator under the seat isn’t an easy project either. AMD personel don’t vote so the girls working for them isn’t a conflict. You’re questioning the integrity of all the builders that voted. They aren’t gonna vote on a bike they don’t like. I won’t pick apart another competitors work. TPJ’s bike would have won our class. Bryan’s work & design is outstanding. I think he probably wanted a chance at at free trip to Germany. He should have been on team USA in my opinion. Your sole purpose has been to discredit my work. People way more qualified than you are the AMD judges (the builders). You make me laugh. Not one of the bikes this year in the perf. class (including ours) would have placed in the top 3 last year. We won by a huge margin last year . I guess that bike sucks in your opinion too. When do we get to see your work?

  22. 22 Doug Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    It’s been written above twice. This is a Performance Class and there’s no room for subjectivity. No sour grapes at all. It IS about credibility for the PERFORMANCE Class

    My sole purpose is NOT to discredit your work. The AMD FB page describes this class as:

    “The class is designed to showcase customs of all or any kind, of any platform or drivetrain, air-cooled or liquid-cooled (or even alternative energy) bikes, where the primary intention of the customizer is to improve performance and/or showcase his/her performance engineering and techniques. Open to ‘streetable’ performance work, drag strip, circuit racing, off-road racing or ‘Bonneville’ race projects and bikes. Open to ‘metric’, Whitworth/AF, and SAE measure bikes. Open to all kinds of performance engineering and enhancement techniques, including super charging, turbo charging, NOS etc.”

    There’s nothing that states street legal as a requirement, so your continued reference to street legal capabilities is irrelevant when in comes to this category’s contest. In fact, it can be argued that street legal components for this category are foolish, especially since the bikes’ street legal parts are adjusted at the race event.

    Since you’re so adamant about riding your bike to the salt, racing it, then riding home….can you post a picture of the other fender strapped to you or your bike while heading out to the Salt? Not just when you enter the lot either. btw…it appears the BTR bike would not require much to be street-legal. Lights are it; which would need covered at any road race track.

    KEY point of the AMD’s description needs repeated:

    “…PRIMARY INTENTION of the customizer is to improve performance and/or showcase his/her performance engineering and techniques.”

    In pictures and in black & white print, which bike represents the most significant improvements in performance is clear. Again, this is not discrediting your work but questioning the results when you factor in the other bikes:

    1. modified cruiser frame with a modified honda cruiser motor & custom bodywork & all of the sponsored components bolted on or installed.

    VS.

    2. CB 350 modified to compete in road races. No big motor here.

    VS.

    3. ground-up frame, swingarm, tanks, transmission, etc. using a stock Twin Cam motor that comes out of a cruiser weighing about 700 lbs. with a long primary. The resulting bike is probably less than 475 pounds. This is at least a 200 pound weight LOSS while adding proven rake & wheelbase geometry with vastly improved front and rear suspension

    VS.

    4. ground up jump bike using a big inch motor & complete custom frame that has the durability to jump cars with a 300 pound rider.

    VS.

    5. Boss Hoss

    —-
    I don’t need to publish my projects to have the above informed comments. Even if I didn’t have a project, I could still publish the same informed statements. In fact, if everyone was expected to have their own build how would builders make money? It wouldn’t be by building bikes.

    I hope the Performance Class continues to attract the caliber of bikes entered because it is the class to watch from a riding perspective

  23. 23 AFT Customs Aug 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    You just did a good job of making my argument for me. The first paragraph you put up says it all very nicely. That fender really has you fired up. Makes us like it even more. We’ve got a lot of requests for it so maybe I’ll start selling them & we’ll name it “The Dougie” in your honor. The other competitors didn’t make the “bolt on sponsored componants” on their bikes either. They didn’t make their suspention, ignitions, air filters, cams, pistons,brake systems, tires, hand controls, lighting, grips or batteries in our class. Sounds like some jealousy that we get sponsorship. The first paragraph says “streetable performance work” so keep slamming us for a street legal bike. That class has a broad definition. Each time you post you dig a deeper hole. You have no idea what Bonneville is about either . I haven’t once said anything negative about my competitors.We have the highest regard for their work. I didn’t list half the custom work that was done on our bike. Far more knowledgable people than you judged it by seeing it in person & asked questions. Even if you were a judge it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.I voted for both the bikes that placed 2nd & 3rd. You’re living in the past -we build cool bikes for the future. It’s a fact that the cool factor won a few votes.People swarm around that bike everywhere we take it. Before we left for Sturgis we had 4 mag features confirmed in 4 countries. Cool bikes sell magazines & add space.

  24. 24 Doug Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Do what you want, dude. That fender does not have me fired up at all. Wrong ‘em boyo, again.

    I’m not slamming a street legal bike, but merely countering your emphasis on street legality which the AMD describes as optional for this class. Re-read it.

    Who is digging a hole with their comments?

    1. “It’s a fact that the cool factor won a few votes.” Reminder: I’ve been questioning the credibility of the Performance Class this entire time.

    2. Your confirmation that AFT models were hired by the AMD to model and conduct interviews for the same competition they participated as a builder is a conflict of interest, regardless if they voted or not. Professional organizations don’t even have the participants volunteer.

    ——–

    “…PRIMARY INTENTION of the customizer is to improve performance and/or showcase his/her performance engineering and techniques.”

    Before and after performance results of the Honda 750 compared to the before and after performance results of any of the other builds will tell the story of “improved performance and the ability to showcase Engineering.”

    That in no way discredits your work. It simply highlights the other 3 bikes.

  25. 25 AFT Customs Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    You are giving us all a good laugh. If you wanted to high light the other builds then you should have with your first post.That would of shown some class. Instead you chose to try to discredit our win.You don’t have a clue about AMD because you’ve never been there & you’re not a builder.AMD encourages the builders to talk to one another to learn about each others build. The AFT Girls are there anyway doing just that so haveing them interview the builders isn’t a conflict.The builders at AMD are all friends & we look forward to seeing each other. Guys from all over the world meet once a year to exchange ideas & inspire each other. Your attitude wouldn’t fit in. Your guy didn’t win. Live with it. I had nothing to do with that. There were over 80 votes cast. Your’e saying that everyone that voted for us is an idiot. You’re entitled to your opinion. Steve & I started with stock bikes so there would be a significant increase in performance with what we both did. The other bikes were ground up builds so there is no “before”. You’re grasping at straws now. This is why your bullshit doesn’t hold water. Keep twisting your story – I’m having fun with it.

  26. 26 Doug Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    ‘The other bikes were ground up builds so there is no “before”.’

    There’s no twisting any story. The twin cam comes in cruisers or touring bikes that are about 700 lbs or more.

    Even if this was a crate motor, starting from nothing to the bikes displayed represent the Performance Class description: “…improve performance and/OR showcase his/her performance engineering and technique.”

  27. 27 AFT Customs Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    What’s your point? They did a great job. You said the “before & after” of the other builds compared to that of our bike would tell the story. A ground up build has no “before” to be compared to.You’re argument is running out of gas. Give it up.
    We customized a stock bike. Shame on us.We didn’t deserve to be in the show or win. . We feel horrible. Boo hoo! I’ll call all the magazines that want a feature & tell them we don’t deserve it. We’ll send back the awards from AMD, L.A. Calendar Show & Rat’s Hole because Doug thinks all those judges are fools. I’m proud of the fact you don’t like our bike. Thank you.

  28. 28 Curt Winter Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Allright, enough is enough. Doug, I appreciate your enthusiasm and thank you for acknowledging the effort that went in to my bike. But this bike was never intended to be a show piece, its a prototype to a future production model that I simply built in track form to test the complete package in an extreme environment, the track. All the builders at the AMD were true craftsmen, and rightfully so, the AMD is the world stage for custom builders and a place to be recognized as a builder. I’ve already noticed a huge spike in the interest of BTR, my business has spread world wide in a matter of days, I attribute that to the effort that went into the bike and the exposure given by the AMD. Would I have liked to place first, hell yes, but thats irrelevant. Enough said.

    Curt Winter
    BTRmoto.

  29. 29 Alan K Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    I think I know who Doug is…. It’s Paul Jr.

  30. 30 AFT Customs Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    That’s brilliant. Looks like you guys had a good ride.Ck your email about Germany.

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