Ethanol Producer Group Describes Motorcycle Lobbying Day Against E15 Fuel An Absurdity

fuel-pumpToday June 19, the American Motorcycle Association (AMA) is on Capitol Hill to talk about the dangers of E15 for use in motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles. The objective of the “Fuel for Thought” lobbying day is to help educate lawmakers about the need to research the possible harmful effects of E15 fuel on motorcycles. The Fuels America Coalition qualifies this rally as an absurdity since E15 is not approved for use in motorcycles and because E15 pumps are clearly labeled to prevent missfueling. The group states that E10 has been used in motorcycles for years, without problems, and helps reduce knock, a frequent problem with motorcycles..

AMA participants are also expected to ask lawmakers to support H.R. 875, a bill introduced by Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., which calls for additional scientific and technical research on the use of mid-level ethanol blends. The AMA wants the research to include the effects on motorcycles and ATVs.

16 Responses to “Ethanol Producer Group Describes Motorcycle Lobbying Day Against E15 Fuel An Absurdity”

  1. 1 Manny Jun 19th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    On top of the issue of destructive properties of ethanol… when I’m driving across the country in my F150, and can find E0 (ethanol free), I get easily 3 to 4 miles per gallon better mileage with the E0. Might not sound like a lot, but think of it this way, that’s about a 17 to 22% increase in fuel efficiency on the F150’s V8.

  2. 2 Terence Tory Jun 19th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Fifteen percent ethanol would make just about every recent and/or fuel injected motorcycle run better with less detonation and cooler.If you don’t want to use E15,avoid it and use something else.If you can’t read a clearly labeled E 15 gas pump,maybe you shouldn’t be riding a motorcycle.

  3. 3 Greg Keller Jun 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    The etanol story just got started.

  4. 4 burnout Jun 19th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I am all for clean air and water for my descendants BUT ethanol does nothing but damage to EVERY carburetor it comes in contact with. Let a fuel injected vehicle sit for 3 months and see the damage ethanol can do. State vehicles here in AL are flex-fuel but e85 is no where to be found. Ethanol is not cheaper any way you look at it. I am finished now. peace

  5. 5 llene Jun 19th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Without problems? They clearly don’t work in a motorcycle shop…

  6. 6 Rodent Jun 19th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Ethanol is a political scam to keep the Midwest corn farmers voting right and paying them off by using their corn crops to make ethanol and the driving public gets screwed again.

  7. 7 Lightnin'Larry Jun 19th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    “The group states that E10 has been used in motorcycles for years, without problems, and helps reduce knock, a frequent problem with motorcycles.” I beg to differ; I have an S&S 124″ carbureted TwinCam with an 11 to 1 compression ratio and this thing pings like a mother on heavy acceleration on E10 fuels!!! And I’m using the S&S anti knock ignition system to boot!!

  8. 8 Woody's Jun 19th, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    I’d be saying what they are are, too, if the taxpayers were throwing subsidies at me. 😉

  9. 9 Chris Jun 19th, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Rodent, I agree, and I say that as a former corn farmer. The ethanol mandate was a political boondoggle crafted in large part by Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas during the late 80’s and early 90’s. At the time, the legislature considered a slew of alternative fuels, including hydrogen, as the fuel of the future.

    Well, leave it to politics and the agriculture lobby to convince our fine folks on the Hill to come up with quite possibly the least environmentally friendly option to address pollution.

    As a farmer, I loved it. Corn prices in the last few years hit prices never seen before and more and more land is being turned over every year to cash in on corn. That’s great if you are a corn farmer, terrible if you are a livestock farmer who feeds corn to his animals, bad news if you are a carnivore who likes to eat tasty animals, and even worse yet if you have any interest in cleaning up our air or interest in performance machines.

    The pollution created by farmers planting millions of acres of corn greatly counters the perceived benefits of the reduced emissions the fuel provides.

    By the way, the ethanol subsidies have been eliminated in the latest Farm Bill if I’m not mistaken.

  10. 10 Nobody Jun 20th, 2013 at 12:10 am

    Demi-Eco freak here, and even I say ethanol is bullshit. It’s a 1/4 assed solution to petrol consumption that’s been pushed by idiot politicians with no science background.

  11. 11 Motormark Jun 20th, 2013 at 6:25 am

    Ethanol content IS NOT clearly labeled on pumps between Ohio and Iowa, that’s for damned sure.

  12. 12 Shanedrive Jun 20th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    “E10 has been used in motorcycles for years, without problems, and helps reduce knock, a frequent problem with motorcycles.”

    Pffffffffffffffft, yeah f’in right!! These guys sound muffled cuz they’re talking out their collective a$$e$ right through their britches.

    Just got done with an 05 FXDWG fuel infected. It lost fuel pressure. (no check engine light w/this issue). Upon disassembly, I found what used to be round orings, were turned into “square” orings. THe only way to replace one of the orings appeared to be only available in a complete pump assembly from HD. (can you say big $$$$?) I did some research, found the correct sizes needed and simply replaced the orings and all is well. Will advise customer regarding booze (ethanol) fuel and will tell him to try and find fuel stations w/multiple hose pumps so he doesn’t get that shot of crappy fuel before he gets the good fuel when selecting non ethanol gas.

    And for you Terence Tory………You’re full of it.

  13. 13 Terence Tory Jun 20th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Shanedrive Maybe Honda knows how to make a flex-fuel bike work and last.”By December 2010 both Honda flexible-fuel motorcycles had reached cumulative sales of 515,726 units, representing a 18.1% market share of the Brazilian new motorcycle sales in 2010″ . Maybe H-D needs Honda’s help again,(or your help).A brief service note on a postcard to The H-D motor company may well surprise you with a prompt response, and even a complimentary H-D t-shirt for your R&D efforts. Fancy that.

  14. 14 Steve The Producer Johann Jun 20th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Here is an online guide to where you can purchase non ethonal fuels. Not sure how updated it is so you may wish to call station first to verify before heading out to purchase some pure gas.

  15. 15 Blackmax Jun 20th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Motormark is right…
    Not CLEARLY marked in this part of the world
    Just a small sticker that you hardly pay attention to. if you weren’t looking
    E-10 sucks! But E-15 is a Killer !!!!

  16. 16 Andy "FatBoy" Jun 25th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    I am not a chemical engineer, however, as a former HD dealer employee, I can tell you that E10 is not good and does cause trouble – our own experience in outr own bikes! Water, seal issues, rideability and on and on. When we got additieve to “make” it perform somewhat normal, it did – but it will caost ya! E15 can only be worse.

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