Owning a Bagger and wanting to go faster? Good news coming from S&S Cycle with these T111, T124 and T124LC Long Block Engines that will bolt into your stock touring chassis (Special Head machining – Fits stock length intake manifolds)
They are sold without the fuel system so you can use what you have and save some money, or use any performance system you like. Naturally S&S Cycle recommends an S&S throttle body and a Dynojet® Power Vision® tuner!
The T111 is the ultimate sport touring engine, while the T124 is just what you need for a hot rod bagger. The T124LC is a slightly lower compression version of the T124 with 640 Easy Start gear drive cams that is ideally suited for heavier bikes and trikes, plus it’s more tolerant of variations in fuel quality.
These engines have the same “knock your socks off” performance as S&S Cycle T-Series engines for 1999-’06 Harley-Davidson® big twins, but are built with the new S&S Super Stock T2 Crankcases for 2007-later Harley tourers (except Twin-Cooled™ models). These engines require an oil line kit for installation. Not available for Dyna® models. Late model Softail® and Dyna owners can still go fast with one of the proven performance S&S Hot Set Up Kit®.
If they were fast there’d be a dyno chart…
BobS. Why you don’t ask S&S the dyne chart instead of making assumptions without knowing.
Hey you can tell me you sleep with swimsuit models but that doesn’t mean I believe you. I know S&S is good, I have S&S parts on my own bike. But if ANY company’s marketing is promoting their product as a performance product either show me the numbers or it never happened. If I’m going to drop thousands on a whole new engine, presumably because the one that came with my bike sucks, or maybe I’m picking one for a custom…then I want to see the dyno chart showing real world rear wheel results for what my money buys. If they’re promoting it as “looks good” show me a picture. If they’re promoting it as “sounds good” let’s hear the sound bite. If they’re promoting it as powerful…
BobS. I guess, it’s not Cyril’s priority to publish all technical info about a product. As suggested, call or email S&S.
No, it’s not on Cyril. He’s publishing material released by manufacturers. It’s on them to back up their claims by including the material in their press releases.
BobS,
Using your analogy, you can show me a picture of a super model and it still doesn’t mean your banging her! Dyno charts aren’t worth the paper they are printed on. This engine is the same HP and TQ of all the other 124″ engines they build, they beat the 120r by 5hp through the entire power curve, and yes I have seen the dyno charts.
MERRY CHRISTMAS BobS…!!! and have yourself a happy HOLIDAY!!!
Thank you Ghost, and best wishes to you and yours!
BobS
has no idea what he is talking about .
No dyno.I don’t know.
A hot rod bagger. Is that like a hot rod Lincoln Town Car?
dyno charts are here:
http://www.sscycle.com/tech-info/dyno-charts/?engines
Keep in mind that those results will not be the same for every model with every intake or exhaust system out there.
Thanks Mike!
Bob – I guess it would be interesting to know the numbers, but as Bud says results will vary within a small range based on aesthetic choices people will make for their intake & pipes….which begs the question –
Would you know the difference of a few hp & ft.lbs. when put to use in a bagger on the street?
…and, we all know aftermarket engines of this variety & capacity typically make 105-120 hp & ft.lbs. torque numbers that are comparable to their c.i. size
If they were fast there’d be a dyno chart…
i agree show some dyno runs and list the S&S products in the engine build
Good or bad dyno runs, Bob Wood is the only guys who consistently publishes dyno runs on his products
the bull shit kinda stops lol when the dyno stops spinning 🙂
BobS
here yah go
http://www.woodcarbs.com/images/tc113efitw408-6-1.jpg
DTWO, yes, I’m well aware that intake, pipes, and tune will make a difference. My complaint/request is in regards to marketing. S&S is presenting all of us who read this material an approx 10,000 dollar (engine, parts, and labor) option to a stock H-D Twin Cam. They’re not marketing it as a better looking, better sounding, or more reliable engine. They are promoting it as a more powerful alternative to the stock H-D unit. Knowing S&S quality I find this a very viable alternative to taking a stocker and adding bore, cams, crank, headwork, etc. So if I’m investing in power, I want to know what I get for the money. And yes, I can absolutely tell the difference in a motor that makes 10 more ft-lbs at 2700 rpm’s even if peak numbers are closer. So if I’m going to consider an aftermarket crate motor vs building up a stock motor, yes, I definitely want to see the dyno charts.
I mentioned a few (5), not 10 ft.lbs.
I can’t see the end result of fitting a big inch high horsepower Big Twin to a bagger as anything but an evil handling heavy juggernaut.Buy a 1800 GoldWing to go interstate fast and a have a hot Hog for sunny days.
S & S builds Motors that are BULLETPROOF
Tough & dependable in real world situations
Dynos are ok but I rather take the word of people/riders who have installed them
there are PLENTY of people who have done it with outstanding results
Some people are not interested in transverse 6 cyl or inline power 3’s
if you like a traditional V-Twin set up, you can NEVER go wrong with S & S