Harley-Davidson Rocker Passenger Riding Position

I have built a custom swingarm bike (named Stardust) where the rear fender was attached (welded) to the swingarm. Advantage: you can place the fender very close to the tire which always look better (like with a hardtail frame). Of course, the solo seat pan must be off the rear fender with enough clearance for the swingarm/fender to move freely. But Stardust was a solo seat bike. This picture shows the new 2008 Harley Rocker FXCWC being ridden with a passenger. I like the new Harley Rocker, but as a designer, I have difficulties assimilating this passsenger riding position. For me, the new Harley Rocker should be a solo seat bike. Your reaction?   

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50 Responses to “Harley-Davidson Rocker Passenger Riding Position”


  1. 1 Giest Aug 26th, 2007 at 9:15 am

    Good Gods…my wife would kill me if I told her to sit there. That is unreasonably close to the operator of the bike. I don’t know about anyone else but I can’t stand it when someone gets too close to my back while I’m driving. I feel cramped and restricted. Plus, one quick shot of the throttle and you’re riding solo anyway. Gah, what were they thinking?

  2. 2 bob Aug 26th, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    a one seater bike wouldnt sell nearly as well as an uncomfortable 2 seater.

  3. 3 scott Aug 26th, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    the bike sucks

  4. 4 Nicker Aug 27th, 2007 at 12:55 am

    Seems to me, that position doesn’t look much different than the early sprung seats on rigid frame HDs, with the large chrome grab rails around the back….?

    The pictured riding position isn’t much different than the Bates pillion that we used to bolt directly to the rear fender.

  5. 5 jatinder pal Aug 27th, 2007 at 2:08 am

    Scotts right,this bike does sux.i dont why the companies hire talented designers.the HEARTLAND USA,company in california,got this sollution of the twin seater.the fab and the design is really good which is offered by aftermarket.

  6. 6 Leonard turner Aug 27th, 2007 at 8:51 am

    Guys have to convince there wifes to let them buy this toy. They,ll never be successful if there is no place for them to sit.Harley has the right idea, as stupid as it seems to us to mess up the flow of the bike with some dumb looking seat, it has it’s purpose. Bodyman

  7. 7 madpuppy Aug 27th, 2007 at 9:16 am

    ( I`m not ” chuckling ” at you Cyril.) HaHahahaha its nice to smile with the first cup of the day and read some of the replies to your blog. to all have a great day!

  8. 8 goldiron Aug 27th, 2007 at 9:46 am

    Pillion seating position is not much different than the old “King-Queen seats. Certainly it does not differ much from the pillion seating position on sport bikes. The retro look that H-D comes up with is amazing. This is reminiscent of a rumble seat in a Model A Ford. It seems that H-D recognized that, for many a rider, a passenger is just an occasional rider and not full time as with the baggers. It seems to be a genuine removal of the rider and passenger to be one with the bike. This visual separation makes the bike seem awkward and ungainly. I guess it is supposed to be an improvement over folding up a towel and putting it on the rear fender for some bar hopping, but not much.

  9. 9 Pop Aug 27th, 2007 at 10:19 am

    I gotta go and see what the load rating is because let’s face it, not all passengers are built like that lady in the factory picture.

    If some of these big boned mountain gals up my way graced that goofy seat, the driver would have the risers tattoeed in his forehead and the rear fender would look like it lost a cage match with a fire hydrant.

  10. 10 Shawn1340 Aug 27th, 2007 at 11:13 am

    The bike should have stayed as a solo. It’s too bad the bike is getting all the bad press just for the seat setup. I would never ask my wife to sit on something that looks that dangerous.

  11. 11 goldiron Aug 27th, 2007 at 11:58 am

    Second visual problem I have with the bike is the front fender. You would think after spending the amount of time designing the rear fender that they could put a complementary front fender on this bike rather than tacking on the old off the shelf one that they used. I don’t find the front fender to be ugly….just not very stylish with the rest of the bikes look.

    Yeah Pops, the load rating may be a major concern. Although, maybe Cyril and the other builders can come up with some great looking gussets that would carry the “load”.

  12. 12 Hellraiser Aug 29th, 2007 at 10:38 am

    The problem with the rocker is that it looks like an afterthought bike, its like HD – R&D cam up with a brilliant idea to breath life in the Deuce since sales are low on this model, lets beef it up, hmm let see cut the struts, smack a larger swing arm, stretch the front, oops we forgot the passenger, hey lets use our strut mounting holes in the frame and squeese the passenger in there. Anymore brilliant ideas HD, the bike sucks in every peice of design. For the sticker price, I would rather go get myself a nightrain and spruce it up.

  13. 13 V-rodder Aug 30th, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Hell you think the seat is bad, how about the speedo set up?? Talk about “what the hell were they thinking”! It looks like they took the dash and stuck a Sportster speedo on it. Back to the seat though, I don’t see how Harley’s legal dept gave the OK on this abomination. I do think the bike has potential. Lower it, swap out the tank setup, and trim down the seat… You might be surprised at the finished product.

    V-rodder

  14. 14 dragon Aug 30th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    ok harley the joke’s over you can bring out the real 08 model’s now

  15. 15 dragon Aug 30th, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    this bike was made for the guy who has good ins on his wife because when a cager does something stupid and you have to get out of the way look out she will hit the pavement and you know harley did not test this bike before trying to sell it

  16. 16 craig Sep 6th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    there is an option seat for those that want to take the old girl with them.Harley only give you the basics on any of there bikes and then you spend the money on changing it to how ya want it.

  17. 17 hdkid Nov 7th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    i think the bike is great if ur looking for something like a chopper. but as for the seat i don’t think it’s ment to take ur wife on a cross country tour. looks more like taking the blonde from the bar to the motel. besides 90% of the time it’ll be tucked away and you’ll be riding solo anyways. good job harley!!

  18. 18 JaCrazy Nov 10th, 2007 at 9:24 am

    Well guys don’t blame HD for trying to capture a part of the market that customs have. One, it’s business. Two, there’s definitely enough room for another kind of Harley rider. Besides, my girlfriend not only has her own Harley but is 118 lbs. And when we ride together we like to be close. 34Ds on my back is never a bad thing. So instead of paying outrageous $30K for a Big Dog or Ironhorse and having no place to service it I chose this bike. A splash of the old and new. Besides, what Harley rider isn’t looking at changing something right off on almost any bike they get? Oh remember, the trick seat isn’t out if you are riding it solo. Many people forget that. That’s why it is called ‘trick.’ Where’s the love?

  19. 19 Yobbo Dec 8th, 2007 at 3:47 am

    JaCrazy has hit it! HD have already captured the market for you old ageing, once-was a biker types, but you are not going to keep them in profit for much longer. The Rocker is obviously aimed at a newer, younger market, with the philosophy that “Once we get ’em, we hang onto ’em”, and therefore sell a few more bikes going forward. I am 65, ride a Fatboy, a 1971 ElectraGlide & a 1974 Rigid Chopper. I think the Rocker Custom is the pick of the new models. Young bucks with a young chick on the back will love ’em too. I’d buy one ….. if I was 40 years younger!

  20. 20 "Young Buck" Jan 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    My wife loves it! I’m 25 and she’s 24. I like the custom look with the dependability of an HD. I’m picking mine up this Sunday! Cant wait!…..don’t like the bike, don’t buy it. There are thousands to choose from. Not sure why everyone gets all worked up whenever HD comes out with something different?

  21. 21 JG Feb 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    For pete sake, forget about the seat. Get some brains, that bike was not really intended to hull someone else. It’s one of the best bikes harley ‘s put out. No I don’t think I would hull anyone on the back. It’s ment to be a chopper. Yea some custom made choppers have back seats, but then again I don’t consider them choppers then.

  22. 22 Is436cs Feb 12th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Damm, boys why all the commotion over a new bike? H-D is just trying to appeal to us all, and any good bussiness should. I had a black 175 HD dirt bike in early high school and got out performed by the Yamahas and Hondas all the time. Then in later high school I got a black AMF Sportster. Neither of which I would buy today, but I had a Harley none the less. Later this year I’ll be rotating back to the U.S. for my last tour of duty and my retirement present is a Black Harley of the FXCW type and I am a happy MF. My wife insistes on the solo bike cause I deserve some time to air things out. A different seat and a Tank with some curves to the bottom of it, WTF it’s unique and it’s yours. Hope to see some of you guys out there, America is a great place and ride free.

  23. 23 guy Feb 22nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    replace the rocker -c seat with the rocker seat, looks better, but still just for one person, but why not

  24. 24 Bob Mar 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Seat is very strange and appears dangerous. Tank is too bubbly. Yamaha’s Raider design flows much nicer. Nice try though, perhaps next time they will get a public opinion or do some more field research before releasing the final design. HD name will make people overlook the flaws.

  25. 25 oneleg Apr 11th, 2008 at 1:38 am

    i think it’s better have a saddle.

  26. 26 tbailes63 Apr 21st, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    I agree that the passenger seat sux! I call it the Elroy hover seat. I just bought the new Rocker (not the C). The FXCW is the Bomb, Baby. I love it. My old lady doesn’t ride so an extra seat was not even an option for me. The straight Rocker is just Harley’s answer to the chopper. Before anyone goes criticizing, you need to check out the FXCW. Harley and Custom fans both will be impressed. 240 rear end! Oh Hell Yeah!

  27. 27 Mark Apr 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    I bought the FXWC (not the C). I bought the touring package for when I want a passenger and it looks great! The rack setup alone looks good enough to keep on the bike all the time, but when I want a passenger I just pop on the extra sit and backrest in a stap! Not only is it bigger and beefier for the passenger, It also is a great backrest for the driver. Forget the stupid seat on the “C” model. If I had bought the “C” model I would have changed to the other seat setup ASAP!

  28. 28 Scott May 22nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Not too sure why everyone is so hell bent on trashing the Rocker, the pictures don’t do the bike justice. If any of you people trashing the bike even went to a dealer to see one you would probably change your tune. I bought the Rocker and love it, it handles nice and for a solo seated bike it sure draws a lot of attention, and not bad attention either, every comment I’ve gotten has been a possitive one. I know all the diehard bikes think Harley made a bad choice with this model, but suck it up guys and deal with there decision to produce this model.

  29. 29 Leo Jun 19th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Well I bought one and my wife, (54 kilos) will sit on the back quite nicely. I am told Harley did significant load tests, regardless it is an awesome bike, seat out and in.

  30. 30 Steven Jun 23rd, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Just bought one about 30 minutes ago Rocker in black. Will be picking this bike up on Thursday. Also bought the touring package minus the sissy bar which easily comes on and off in less then a minute for a passenger. The bike rides great and to me looks awesome in person. My wife and daughter love this bike also. We orig. went in to buy a nightster but it didnt handle well and felt like a hardtail, checked out all the new ones and this rocker was the hottest test drove it and was amazed.

  31. 31 Tito Jun 25th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    are you kidding go buy another street glide or road king . how about putting your couch & tv on there too.

    have any of you ridden this ? how about on the back? I have done both, and your right a little close is comfy nothin wrong with the double d’s in the back. as far as a load test ,who wants a load on the back of there bike? if your into big passengers get a bigseat but by all means live & let live. I guess the saying goes
    “If I have to Explain It You Would’nt Understand”

  32. 32 hdwideglidehd Jun 28th, 2008 at 7:59 am

    Harley hit the nail on the head with this bike. Once you ride one, you will want one. I already had an 05 FL so this one is for fun. Slapped a race tuner on it, V&H Big Radius, Big Sucker air cleaner and the new Corbin seat and what a ride! This bike gets ohhs and aahs everywhere you take it. My wife has no intentions of ever getting on it and she is the one that actually bought it for me. She feels much more at home on the FL with all the comforts of home (plus the storage for all the crap she buys). Guys, if your looking for a bad ass scooter with Harley reliability, then this is the one for you. When you compair the price and comfort of the Rocker to the other “chopper” type bikes out there, you can’t go wrong with the Rocker!

  33. 33 angelo pierno Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:17 am

    How cares about the seat the bike it self is beautiful it rides like a dream just got my new rocker c and love it rides nice and looks great got the bike home and tore the seat off of it and custom installed a nother one ant it looks hot . The 240 rear tire is unreal so what if the origanal seat looks like shit everyone customizes ther own bike most of the time the bike rocks.

  34. 34 rocker Mike Jul 24th, 2008 at 7:56 am

    I just purchased the rocker c my girlfriend is very small but has a little back problem. I don’t understand why they cannot come out with a seat that will clip on to the other one that has a small back rest. Something that you could leave in your garage. Corbin has two seats out they are custom-made over $900. Totally ridiculous. All I want is a small seat for the back with a back rest for the passenger.if anybody knows about something similar to what I am looking for please e-mail me mmercier43charter.net thank you

  35. 35 RockerDave Jul 26th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    hdwideglidehd – Wow you put Vance & Hines Big Radius pipes on the Rocker…that is impressive considering V&H does not make pipes for the Rocker…yet. You must have installed regular softail
    pipes from V&H…which is a BIG NO NO. Yes , the pipes will bolt up but if you would have done some research, you would’ve found that the V&H pipes you installed are too close to the tranny lines and oil tank. This will cause your bike to run hotter and void the warranty. The good news is that V&H already has “the Rocker” part number (26043) listed on their website (www.vanceandhines.com). They are supposed to be available towards the end of Aug. I too like the Big radius pipes but I am wait ing for the correct fitting ones before I make the change. Feel free to call Scott at V&H(562- 926-5291) and ask him about what I have just mentioned. If your local Harley dealer installed the set-up, maybe they will replace them once the correct pipes are realeased. Don’t feel bad…many new Rocker owners have made the same mistake (primarily from local Harley dealers just wanting to make an additional sale and not speaking directly to the manufacturer about proper fitting). I have noticed that many softail products are not interchangable with the Rocker…just because something will fit an 08 softail does not mean it will fit the Rocker.

  36. 36 BoB64 Jul 28th, 2008 at 5:34 am

    The first thing I did with my Rocker-C, was to change seat with FXCW seat. It’s softer, lower and more narrow too. Bought the touring kit with removable pillow/backrest. Works like a dream.

  37. 37 zibom Sep 17th, 2008 at 12:03 am

    I bought the rocker-C about 3 weeks ago and the seat design is perfect becuase it folds away. However, you do need to make sure your rider has a small backside or she might take the whole seat 🙂

    The main seat is not very comfortable though on long rides, so I might have mine redone in the dear future, or lose about 100 lbs of my own backside heh.

    Love the bike – it draws crowds where ever I go!

  38. 38 gtndusa Sep 28th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    I have recently purchased a rocker c my wife and i both love it other than when I ride it by myself women love this bike it is simply an eye catcher. there are just too many of you out there that like the jap bikes cause they are cheaper. If you know anything, it is there is just something about riding a Harley a pride thing! Some of you don’t appear to know what that is. Live Free Ride Hard!

  39. 39 luv my rocker Nov 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 am

    To all you probable moped riding biker wannabees that are just shooting holes in something that either cant afford or probably just couldnt ride, you should show us what you think looks good and then park it next to a rocker and see what draws more attention.this bike is hot and all i get is positive comments from people that actually ride harleys, and as far as the back seat goes it is a great idea for the hot chick you just met in the bar to get wet on, not ride across country, but then again you moped riders wouldnt understand that would you???

  40. 40 pete swift Dec 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 am

    v-rocker is the wrong name:
    how about beaver tail !!!

  41. 41 gk Jun 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    i have an 09 rocker c and love it. my wife rides with me and has no complaints. all i can say for you that say it sucks is…….. DUMP THE BITCH AND GET ONE WITH A SMALLER ASS!! you people ar PW

  42. 42 EZ E Jun 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    I GOT MY BLUE ROCKER C FEB 08. AT FIRST I T TOOK A LITTLE TIME TOO REALY GET INTO THE BIKE. BUT AFTER MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE EXHAUST WITH V & H SLIP ON PIPES, HD FOOT PEGS, MOVING THE FRONT BLINKERS TO THE FORKS, ADDING SOME CHROME TO THE ENGINE, A 103 HD KIT AND CHROME WHEELS THIS BIKE GETS MORE LOOKS THANS EVER. WHEN I AM HANGING OUT WITH BOYS ON THEIR TRICKED OUT CUSTOM BAGGERS WITH THEIR SOUND SYSTEMS I STILL GET MOST OF THE LOOKS AND ASKED A LOT MORE ?. I HAVE OUT RAN 107S, 110S, 113S AND EVEN A 127 COULD NOT LEAVE ME BEHIND ONLY STAY NEXT TO ME. SO FOR ALL YOU THAT DO NOT LIKE THIS BIKE IS NUTTTTTSSSS THIS BIKE IS HOT AND GETTING HOTTER. I HAVE PUT OVER 26000 MILES ON THIS BIKE AND LOVE IT. ITS ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER.

  43. 43 mary Aug 4th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    the guy that put fxcw seat on fxcwc . did you have to replace very many bracets & things we want to put touring strut with pavillion seat & back rest on our fxcwc. would appreciate any info

  44. 44 EZ E Oct 11th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    FXCWC TO FXCW REAR SEAT
    I PUT THE SEAT AND ALL THE REAR SEAT MOUNTINGS WITH BACKREST FROM THE FXCW. YOU CAN GET IT FROM THE HARLEY BOOK. I SPENT $1100 WITH CHROMING THE SUPPORTS FOR THE REAR SEAT. WE JUST CAME BACK FROM A 1200 MILE TRIP AND MY WIFE LOVED HER NEW REAR SEAT SET UP.

  45. 45 Johnny D Nov 17th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    I picked up my “08” FXCW on Halloween in Little Rock. I went with the FXCW instead of the FXCWC cause I hate chrome! I love this bike. My wife did not want to ride with me , so it was an easy decision to by a solo bike. The FXCWC seat is about 2 inches higher and wasen’t comfortable for me. Now that I have it home, she wants to ride, damn! never saw that comming! I’m looking for a used set up, but no luck so far. The whole shebang is gonna run about $800 new, so if any of you want to part with your set up, let me know. $300 should be enough, right? I test rode all the Harleys, Victory’s, Suzuki’s and Yamaha’s before I setteled on this bike. Did I mention , I LOVE THIS BIKE! It handles like a dream. Rode 200 miles, no fatigue! I put my black Bassini pipes on next week, cause its just too quiet for me. I added a windshield as well. Dreading the day I have to change the rear tire!!!!

  46. 46 Alexissb May 5th, 2010 at 5:21 am

    OK…am I the only girl on here? I love my boyfriend Rocker C I love that it has a yong modern look and think her looks great on it, but i think it looks even better with me on he back and I dont mind the seat at all. While it is not practical for 1500 mile trip we dont take any. So its great for running around town or a quick bike run. I love it and I saw one comment about “who wants someone sitting so close”… must be married for a long time most of the guys I know love that feeling of a women wraping their arms around them and pressing our…to their backs. Oh well

  47. 47 Darrell Graves Aug 11th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    I own the bike, I love it. I put Vance and Hines pipes, Screamin Eagle air cleaner and screaming eagle computer and for a mostly stock bike it is sweet. The girls that I have had on the back have not complained once about the seat. In fact it has been quite the contrary, I get lots of good comments from them about how much they like it. I am going to be putting the Heartland EZ rocker kit on it though as well as some drag bars and rims. The rims actually are the only complaint I have of the bike. It is unsealed cast aluminum and the corrode very easily and are difficult to keep shined.

  48. 48 Robert Oct 5th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I own the Rocker C and it is one sweet bike. Before I bought it my wife said she would not ride on it, but I told her I was not getting it for her. After getting home with the bike my wife finally decided to go for a ride. She was surprised how safe she felt on the back seat. The only problem I have now is. ” She wants to go everywhere with me.” I will say she is a small girl and I can say that will have a big factor in the comfort of the ride but, if I had a big girl I would have used her for a trade in on this bike and laughed all the way home.

  49. 49 Randy K Apr 6th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    I have a rocker and love it but it is a 50 mile bike till I can get a seat with better padding

  50. 50 EZE May 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    08 ROCKER C WITH 69K. BACK ON THE ROAD AGAIN AFTER HITTING A CAR THAT RAN A RED LIGHT. TOOK OUT THE FRONT END AND BENT THE FRAME 3/4 IN.. HAD THE FRAME COLD STRAIGHTEN, INSTALLED A NEW UP GRADED FRONT END TO STOP THAT FRONT TIRE FROM CHOPPING AND BUILT A SCREAMMING EAGLE 113 ENGINE. INSTALLED ALL THE BEST SCREAMMING EAGLE ENGINE PARTS THAT THEY OFFER AND GOT A MONSTER. I RAN A 2010 DYNA WIDE GLIDE WITH A JIMS 130 AND OUT RAN HIM 3 TIMES BEFORE HE GAVE UP. I EVEN GAVE HIM A 3 BIKE JUMP, RAN HIM DOWN AND STILL WON. THANKS HD, SO YOU GUYS OUT THEIR THATS TALKING BAD ABOUT THE ROCKER C COME GET SOME.

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