Renegade Wheels. New President And New Models





 During the V-Twin Expo, Renegade Wheels, Inc. announced a strategic change in company ownership and management. As of February 6, 2009, Chuck Frederick will carry on as President while Wendell Smith moves on to pursue alternative business ventures.  As founding partners, Smith and Frederick built and established Renegade Wheels into a respected brand and V-Twin marketing innovator.  The company will maintain its aggressive commitment to state-of-the-art designs, unparalleled service and unmatched marketing prowess. In Cincinnati Renegade Wheels unveiled its 2009 lineup, which includes 4 new wheel designs. Renegade Wheels.

38 Responses to “Renegade Wheels. New President And New Models”

  1. 1 Steve Carr Feb 12th, 2009 at 8:17 am

    Congrat’s to Chuck as His entire team. What a great staff. They do everything with passion and class. We all can learn from Chuck, he is a great business leader, as well as a really good guy.

    Steve Carr
    Lightning Rod Motorcycles

  2. 2 Greg Hoeve Feb 12th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    For the record, if you guys are going to congratulate anyone for the new wheel styles, you might give some credit where credit is due. In regard to the “Rockin” wheel pattern at least, that credit belongs to EgoTripp Wheels in Lubbock Tx. The proof is on the cover of the current issue (March ’09) of Iron Works Magazine where Doug Wozney’s beautiful bike is prominently displayed. Don’t believe me, just go check out the magazine rack at your local store. Or call up Doug’s Custom Paint & Fab and ask him directly who made the wheels for him. He did win Peoples Choice at S&S’s show by the way. Also, some of you might recall Our “Rueller” wheel pattern done for Brad Ruel of the Wrench (also a production wheel). Check out the pic of the copy (with slight mods) on the side of Renegades trailer. Both of these wheels have been in production for some years now. By the way, there is a currently popular Bobber manufacturer who has a direct copy of our work on their bikes. Yes, it is a fact that we here at EgoTripp designed and manufactured and marketed the first Billet Spoke Wheel where spokes are simulated in the forged wheel blank. Before anyone has to say it, yes we did it as a multi-piece bolt together construction version as well. I believe this particular project goes back some ten years or more. Oh, let’s not forget transparent wheels. Yes, we conceptualized and manufactured the first transparent wheel made from ballistics grade Lexan laminate. We did it for LBF Customs three or four years ago as a one off for a television project. I believe MHT actually filed for patent on this novelty some years after we originated it. Good luck with it by the way.

    Now I’m certain that some people, particularly those who have plagiarized our work, will send me hate mail. Go ahead, prove me wrong. You can’t and you know it. I hope that the members of this industry who know the facts will demonstrate their personal integrity and grace the people who did the work with the benefits deserved of the work. If not, then let me ask you, what’s sheltering you from the same treatment and abuse of your efforts and ideas?

    All I can say is water seeks it”s own level. At what level do you wish to play?


    Gregory J. Hoeve
    Founder, General Manager, President
    EgoTripp Wheels & Accs.


  3. 3 makesnodifference Feb 12th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Hey Steve…please explain exactly what is ‘classy’ about being a knockoff artist. Anyone can do that!

  4. 4 Jeff Nicklus Feb 12th, 2009 at 11:28 am

    I have known Greg Hoeve and Ego Tripp Wheels for almost as long as I have been manufacturing Motorcycles, which in June will be 14 years.

    Over the years I have had Greg and Company design and manufacture several of our proprietary wheel styles for us and unlike some other companies (I am not referring to Renegade Wheels now) I have dealt with, he has never sold our wheel designs, or ideas, out the “back door” to others for a quick buck. Nor have I have never known Greg or any member of Ego Tripp to ever participate in any falsehood or deception.

    Over the years I have had many of our products “reverse engineered” by others who claim those ideas and products as their own. I have had the “Reverse Engineer Specialists” go so far as to do Press Releases of “their” new products and because these idiots are advertisers with the various magazines the magazines print the Press Releases. Therefore, I can appreciate how pissed off Greg must be when others “use” his designs and claim them as their own.

    What is that old saying …. “Imitation is the fondest form of flattery.” ….. I say screw that!

    Over & Out,


  5. 5 Greg Hoeve Feb 12th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Jeff, Thank you for your generous support. I’m not pissed. There’s no money in being pissed, so I don’t waste my time on it. I am however quite as insane as the rest of this industry now and since I also no longer know what I do for a living I am now going to start an new venture.

    I am launching a new beverage line called “Renegade Energy Drinks” ! What do you think? It will come in clear plastic wheel shaped bottles. LOL

    Seriously now, I’m not really doing that. I would never demean myself or my staff of veteran employees with such a move. See, I still have a sense of humor. Clown around with the clowns, you know?


  6. 6 Greg Hoeve Feb 12th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    OMG, Talk about irony! I was just scrolling further down Cyril’s blog and saw this.

    I gotta tell you, I love the five spoke propeller wheel on one of those bikes. Especially cause it looks just like the wheels we did for Ralph Randolph’s Rats Hole bike which debuted in Daytona just about a year ago, featured on the cover of prominent magazines etc. I love how my work looks, even when it’s knocked off. Wait, I might be mistaken, it might be they look just like the wheels we did for Ralph’s Warbird bike for an upcoming television show. They filmed in our shop while we made them of course. And yes, they were black anodized, flat black at that before anybody wants to claim that as “different” somehow.

    You see, This is what’s really killing our industry. There is not enough volume on any part to justify the expense of legal protection of intellectual property and there is no honor among too many of the players within the industry. Just ask Bert Baker what he thinks.

    Greg Hoeve

  7. 7 just my opinion Feb 12th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    You see, This is what’s really killing our industry. There is not enough volume on any part to justify the expense of legal protection of intellectual property and there is no honor among too many of the players within the industry. Just ask Bert Baker what he thinks.

    I agree with every thing you are saying with this one exception. You should protect your ideas with patents,trademarks and copywrites because if you don’t then those that have no morals will steal you blind. It is very expensive to protect what is yours, but how much will you make on your ideas if the other companies keep stealing your ideas faster than you can come up with them? It would only take suing one time and a company will stop stealing your ideas. There are other laws that may be able to help as well. Possibly unfare business practice laws. I would suggest you contact a good intellectual property attorney and see what your options would be.
    Try this Law firm they are Sharks not cheap but worth every dime—–
    The Law offices of Trask Britt 1-800-900-2001
    Good luck

    Also this problem of stealing ideas has gotten so bad in our industry that there was a semenar in Cincinatti at the dealer show addressing that very problem.

    Those that can’t think for them selves will steal from those that do the thinking. It has been that way from the beginning of time.

  8. 8 Greg Hoeve Feb 12th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    JMP Thank you as well for your support. Thank you but no thanks in regards to the lawyer. I won’t do it. That is not my point at all. The cost of legal preventative measures and enforcement, collection etc. far out way the compensation you may expect to get. Hell, it out ways the friggin margin you will earn.

    Some basic similarities are intrinsic to the nature of the product. I did’nt invent the wheel to be sure. Hell, I did’nt even invent the concept of three spokes or five spokes or barbs or speed dots. When you have so many individuals conceiving product for the same basic application it is possible to have overlaps and that is natural. In any event, I have greatly de-emphisized my presence in the volume side of the industry. I am not that motivated given current circumstances to blow out product in quantity anymore. I have clients across the country and around the world who now seek us out to do some pretty radical and interesting projects. And they pay well too I might add. It is in this place that I wish to derive work for the near future. Also, we will be offering production services in much the same context that we serve some of the billion+ dollar corporations that we also call customers.


    That being said, I wish Mr. Frederick and his company, and any and all others I may have made reference to the best of luck in these challenging and extraordinary time. If any of you happen to need some bitchin radical one off work, you know who to call.

    Thank you all for letting me vent.


    Greg Hoeve

  9. 9 Jeff Nicklus Feb 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Just My Opinion,

    I, unlike Greg, have jumped with both feet in the middle of the chest of three (3) “Reverse Engineers” and One (1) “Hell, I like the name of one of the Desperado models so I will just use that as the name of my new bike model” guy. In every case I have prevailed with my litigation. In each case I agreed to out of court settlements which included, however was not limited to, my legal fees being paid by my opponent. When all is said and done however, I lost. I lost because now in the eyes of the industry I am considered not to be a “team player”. In the eyes of the industry, instead of defending myself, I should have kept my mouth shut and curled up in a corner and licked my nuts and just accepted the fact that another in the industry stole my work product. In each case that I pursued, the person and/or company I jumped on were big advertisers in the media and the owners and editors of these media outlets were quick to tell me that by me pursuing litigation against their “clients” I could jeopardize the health of their advertising agreements etc. BFD is what I had to say to that! By now few in this industry think I can be crapped on or that I will accept being wronged without question or a fight. If more people in this industry (as well as all other industries in this country) would stand up and say “enough” we would all be in a better place.

    OK, so much for my soap box speech!

    Over & Out,


  10. 10 AnARchYMoCo Feb 12th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    The designs released by Renegade may closely resemble those of others in the industry, but there is another side to business, customer service. I have been using Renegade wheels for about 4 yrs. I have always been very pleased with their service, and the high quality of their products.

  11. 11 Greg Hoeve Feb 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Anarchy, You got that right. Credit where credit is due. I have also heard and can not contradict that Renegade has good customer service and even I will say that their finish quality is quite good. They service the average customer and builder very well.

    My efforts are to service the extraordinary customer and builder. We do that very well.

    They play their part, we play ours. They are on a majority of bikes on the street, We are on a majority of the bikes that actually win trophies and make magazine covers. There is a difference and the savvy builders know it.


  12. 12 just my opinion Feb 12th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    There are many valid points that have been made here. I totally understand the concept of things being similar versus an out rite carbon copy. If a company makes something similar you may not have a legitimate complaint. If a company makes a carbon copy that is theft. If your parts are not patented, trademarked or copyrighted you may have no legal recourse any way. But If you don’t stand up for your rights when you do have a legitimate reason no one else will do it for you and that is a truth no one here can deny. I certainly don’t want to incourage anyone to start lawsuits with out merit but the other side of the coin is that if your rights are being stepped on by who ever. I for one will stand and fight every time. although I must agree with Jeff others in this industry may look down on you for doing so but doing nothing has a price as well, if you do nothing you will be looked on as some one that can be taken advantage of and the feeding frenzy will start. If you make one off wheels as Greg does with no intent of making them by the hundreds then it makes no sense to patent you designs because it is very costly to get patents and to inforce patents. But remember the cost is on both sides of a lawsuit defending as well as well as being the plaintiff. Usually large companies don’t knowingly infringe the rights of others because they will pay attorney fees and damages if found to have been infringing by the court system. Being in a situation like we are talking about here is no fun and you ultimately must do what you think is right because you are the one that has to live with the results of your actions or lack there of. I also understand the concept of servicing the customer but buying knock off parts in the name of getting the part faster or cheaper don’t make it right. Most don’t know it but patent law states that an owner of the patent has the RIGHT to stop others from making, selling or offering for sale the patented item. The person selling the knock off is as guilty as the person making the knock off. Unfortunately there is a number of people in all industries that take advantage of others hard work but that is why the patent ,trade mark and copy right laws were written. Any way that is my two cents it is worth at least as much as I charged you so there you go.

  13. 13 RollinPhat Feb 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    It amazes me how often I see many in this industry knock off products. I watched last year as a guy publicly started posting photos of his knock off of Mike Brown’s ( Amen ) intake. I watched Mike log on and tell the man exactly what he was going to do for him if he produced it. The guy was only a smart ass about it and mocked the man’s hard work. To me that is about as low as it gets. There is such a thing as poetic justice though and the knock off artist fell flat and the product never made it any further than his own personal bike from what I saw. I saw him walking around the eXpo and the only thing he had to be proud of was the quality of artwork on the back of his t-shirt he spent good money to have some one print up to make him feel like somebody anyway.

    I respect Renegades efforts. I think the do service the public extremely well. I have used their wheels on quite a few bikes and no doubt will use more.

    As for Greg, There’s one guy that doesnt hide his feelings and you have to admire that. He stands for what he believes in and stands to protect what is his. Anyone who knocks him for that has some serious issues. He truly is an outstanding player in the industry. People like Greg are invaluable to the industry. They are what its all about. Inovation and taking it all to the next level. I hope Greg is a player in the game for a long time to come. I use his wheels also. Even the design in question which can be seen here from a bike done “last year”.

    That a give away Greg as to who I am? lol .. shouldnt be too hard.

    I gotta be honest.. between the two designs in question. The Rocklin isnt bad but Gregs Cane gets the trophy on this one.

  14. 14 Bobfather Feb 13th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    I have to agree with Jeff, I also have gone after the plagiarists in the industry. I’m amazed at how rampant it seems to be in our industry today. In our case we had a shop get one of my bikes featured in Easyriders under their name. Pretty blatant plagiraism in my book. I’ve witnessed others doing reverse engineering as Jeff calls it. A close friend of mine designed motor mounts and a very innovative set of gauge mounts. So far he has been ripped off blatantly by some very well known companies in this industry. Unintentional similarities are one thing but these are total knock offs and were at one time custoemrs of his, they then took his parts and knocked them off and marketed them as their own.
    I remember back when there was a high level of integrity in this industry, I guess not so much anymore. Maybe karma will someday do it’s thing on those plagiarists and knock off artists.

  15. 15 Jeff Nicklus Feb 13th, 2009 at 10:57 am


    …. “I remember back when there was a high level of integrity in this industry, I guess not so much anymore. Maybe karma will someday do its thing on those plagiarists and knock off artists.”…

    I remember when that “Karma” would have included a trip behind the building and a good ass whoopin’ would have been given to the offending party …… maybe we should take the lawyers out of the picture and go back to those days. Just wishful thinking I suppose.

    Over & Out,


  16. 16 Greg Hoeve Feb 13th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    To: Mr. Jeff Nicklus, Bobfather, RollinPhat and all the others who are so supportive of my point of view on this particular issue. May I offer my deepest and most heartfelt appreciation for your kind words. By pointing out how egregiously we here at Egotripp have been stepped on I hoped to bring forth the greater issue of how so many others within the industry have been stepped on as well. We are being victimized by our own home grown “CHINA SYNDROME” right here in the good old U.S. of A. We can all bitch about getting lawyers and providing ourselves “LEGAL” protection, if you can call it that, but we just end up distracting ourselves from the pursuit of NEW money in a vain effort to chase OLD money. You all know the drill, the Layer gets all the money and we have to live on satisfaction. Well, satisfaction dose not pay the bills, nor dose it take care of my customer of today.

    If we truly desire for these disreputable business practices to come to an end then we must use our check books to do it. Just don’t buy from these other businesses and tell others about the nature of the situation so perhaps they may be more considerate of where they spend their money. Deny the asswipes the opportunity to profit from their ways. This ultimately is the only true viable solution to this problem.

    To: Anarchy “but there is another side to business, customer service.” By this short sighted statement you are tell me and everyone else that you have no problem with say, Big Dog” running copies of your custom bikes and selling them for less because they too, probably will do a better job taking care of your customer than you do. I know a couple of peeps at Big Dog and over at Big Bear, maybe I should do you a favor and forward your stated intention to be cool with it when they run your product. I am sure they will be suitably appreciative of you magnanimous nature. What a generous spirit you have! Do you mind sending me some CAD files of your products? I would also like to expand my presence in the V-Twin world. Don’t you think its unfair to expect me to reverse engineer your stuff when you have a CAD model that you can so easily e-mail to me? Why should I have to work so hard? After all, You don’t want to be perceived as a hypocrite now do you?

    Greg Hoeve

  17. 17 Rick Feb 13th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    I have to say I appreciate all of the comments on this subject. I prefer to stick with a fundamentalist approach regarding this. Copying is the same as stealing with regards to business products- the reason why the patent and copyright laws are around. It’s wrong to take advantage of someone elses ideas, property rights, hard work, money, efforts etc for your benefit. It’s been done since the beginning of time and will continue. One of the fellows writing in this blog is currently trying to steal our frame design and go into production- we will see what he is made of- for now I will leave his name out of it.

    With the advent of blogs and the internet, whereby someone can google a shop name, manufacturer, personal name etc.. I feel that this provides a perfect forum for honest reviews of opinion. I would say that with a public forum such as this it provides a perfect venue for a “jury of peers”. In other words, perhaps lawyers can stay out of the picture initially and the first “trial” can be in a public forum such as this?

    If the overwhelming numbers are on one side- perhaps then we have a consensus opinion?? I would surmise that this would impair the good will of the infringing company or at least give them pause as people stand up for what is right.

    If people don’t stand up for what is right, then we have a very slippery slope. When do people ultimately stand up and hold others accountable?

    If someone comes to your house and forcibly enters- you have the right to shoot him. I say if someone forcibly enters your business property rights arena, you should have recourse that is on par with that of entering your house! The possessions you have in your house are probably worth less than those that are being stolen from your business (your livelihood). For those who don’t rely on the business as your sole source of revenues- you wouldn’t understand. For those that do- I’m sure you share my sentiment.

    People who are caught stealing should be publicly chastised and looked down on- period. The guilty find fault on this logic as they do not want the light to shine on them. Thus the origins of the word “guilt”. If you are righteous, why then you have the ability to stand up and stake claim for what is yours!

    I don’t think that there is much room for interpretation in this matter. Black and white suits me just fine.

    -Rick Krost

  18. 18 Get over it Feb 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    This whole industry was built on taking someone else’s product and improving it. Think about it,, Custom Chrome started with a replacement HD Tail light, S&S
    Engine is a knock off of a Harley engine!,,How many Softail frame are being built out there?? Who gets the Credit for the 6 speed transmission? Baker ?? Jims? Rev-Tech? Harley?? Who gets credit for Ape Hanger handle bars? How gets credit for the 250 Tire, how many companies make 240 Tires? and how about the 5 spoke wheel from 1965 the Classic “Cragar” how many wheel companies have 5 spoke wheels? There is no such thing as an original Idea, If you thought if it, then with billions of people in the world, someone may have had the same Idea. I Have looked at both wheels and I think that they have some resemblance of each other but both have their own uniqueness. All you need to get Over IT and come up with the Next great Idea the will save your company.

  19. 19 Wade Feb 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Good job Get Over It. The industry is suffering due to the economy, people are threatened and directing anger at the good old American way – the way it has ALWAYS been. Get the hell out of my country that I fought for and join a communist country where people don’t have a choice and competition doesn’t exist.

    I’m going to go grill a burger, I hope that doesn’t piss off Burger King!

  20. 20 random eavesdropper Feb 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    two points:

    1. Has anyone ever heard the saying, “arguing on the intenet is like running in the special olympics … even if you win, you’re still a retard”?


    2. Greg, it’s clear by your posts that you are bored. There are people who know things that can be said that will make you look like a hypocrite, but airing dirty laundry on-line isn’t very professional and steals from your credibility. If you have a problem with Renegade Wheels then you ought to call Mr. Frederick and have a discussion.

    Professionals don’t act like this. In fact, this industry has more drama than Hollywood and it makes me sick.

  21. 21 just my opinion Feb 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Nothing is more American than our Constitution, And Patents are mentioned in that document as being a vital part of our country and its growth. If inventors stop bringing there ideas to the public we will not advance as a country and our founding fathers knew this to be true. As for {get over it’s comments} There is two reasons I can think of that would explain S&S having built engines based on the Evo of Harley. First there could have been a licensing agreement that is very common in industry. Just because some one owns patent rights does not mean there are not smart enough to license that idea to other companies and make additional money. Second is the fact that patents expire after twenty years that is why Harley changes there engine design every twenty years. Nothing was wrong with the evo engine in fact it was a great design but because the patents have expired anyone can produce them now. The twin cam also is a good design as far as engines go but as soon as the patents run out I am sure HD will again come out with a new design. As for Wade’s ridiculious comment about making a burger that speaks for its self. Some people are meant to flip burgers for a living others invent.

  22. 22 Nicker Feb 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    “…This whole industry was built on taking someone else’s product …”

    Well, not quite.

    The “industry” is built on the legacy left by the “Garage Builders” all over the country, at a time before “commodity custom products” and commercial scooter building.

    The unspoken rule was that one could copy an idea (it was always good form to ask permission), PROVIDED that credit for an idea was always properly attributed.

    Even at that time, when there was little economic advantage, the most valuable commodity was the intellectual credit.

    So, if your looking for a “legacy base-line” on which to build an argument about this industry and what is or isn’t “appropriate” ….. start from there.


  23. 23 Lee Wimmer Feb 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I may be late getting into this one.
    Greg I really respect you attitude on all this. It is very unfortunate that we have to deal with all the people that steal our brainchilds and like you said there is no way to try to get anything back from dealing with lawers. EVEN when you have pattents people seem to get around the issues with all the legal mumbo jumbo. case inpoint, I have a pattent on the top or head breathers that I developed years ago. I have been knocked off by loads of people, but it is so costly to defend yourself. Seems like the laws protect the crooks instead of the other way around. sucks ! Anyway I just keep on making new stuff. our new catch phrase is….we make today what others copy tomorrow.

  24. 24 u sta care Feb 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Gregg and the rest of them you need to go after them. That is what is killing this industry the copy cats driving around in big fancy rigs cause they get the ideas for free. I will call you and give you a attorneys name that would love to make it right for you. He has done it for me many times. That is most likely why Wendall got out. Could not sleep at night. They are just no mind of there own thiefs.

  25. 25 MIKEOUT Feb 16th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    I agree with Greg, Jeff, and Lee.
    I have Greg’s Spartan wheels on my own bike. I have Lee’s 45′ intake on my bike also. I chose to use their products because they are top quality and they are ORIGINAL DESIGNS, not a knock off product.
    To many people in this industry have been ripped off. Greg and Lee both have had designs STOLEN
    from them, not to mention all the other shops out there. Look at Saxon m/c air intake, it looks like Lee’s
    but it’s not. Look at Sucker Sally’s (a prime example of what daddy will buy you, to keep you from getting into trouble, a m/c company.) new wheel, it looks like Greg’s design but it’s not. Look at Paul Yaffe, he’s one of the KINGS at knocking off other peoples products. Paul got his though, Big Bear went to the company in Canada that did all of Paul’s knock off work, they BACK-DOORED Paul and sold Big Bear enough parts to start building production bikes. Karma will get you in the end. Big Bear has made millions and Yaffe is still POSEING.


    Mike Out!

  26. 26 Rick Feb 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    The last few comments make me feel American again……

  27. 27 Tim Ashcroft Feb 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Paul Yaffe is probably the well known builder whose “inspiration” comes almost always from others. Sidemounts stolen from Hi-Tech? Frames already made in Canada? Grips copied from OMP in Italy? With the arrogance to call his parts STBC (Soon To Be Copied!!!). And made in China.

  28. 28 Mark Stewart Feb 16th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Greg is a stand up guy and a great business man. I had the pleasure of speaking with him for quite some time and I have gladly supported his products from an editorial stand point (Bikernet Forever). I appreciate his candor and his outlook on the industry and business.

    Hey Greg, say hi to Phil Holmes for me and give me a call regarding those opportunities we talked about. I have learned it is great to play in this industry and focus on big business.

    Workin’ where I am playin!!

    Mark Stewart
    Outlaw Communications

  29. 29 Chopperpimp Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:49 am

    It’s 2004 and I am at the ROT rally in Texas and I talk with Shannon from Ego Tripp cool guy gives me his card and we talk for about 20 minutes shows me their wheels and answers my questions,few month later I order a set a wheels they tell me it will be 3 weeks wheels show up in 2 and they are special order exactly what I want. I call and speak and get one of the owners on the phone and he tells me how did you like the wheels and if there is anything else I need just to ask for him or his brother personally and will work with me with whatever I need.

    It’s Dec 2006 and I am at the Vtwin Expo in Las Vegas one of my guys wants a poster from the Chic @ the Renegade booth, I notice that the wheels look a lot like Wicked Image wheels, one of the Reps approaches me and we start talking I ask him a few questions about dealer pricing and turn around time, he refers me to Wendell. I go over to Wendell and I ask him my questions and this guy is more interested in talking to the poster Chic than answering my questions ( She was smokin hot!) the rep sees what happens and wants my contact info I give him a card and I never hear anything.

    So now it’s Oct of 2007 I’m at SEMA I’m walking through the MHT booth and what do I see? The clear wheels that I’ve seen on a Sportbike built for Metric Revolution which I know Ego Tripp did the wheels for, I go over to check out them out upclose and I start asking Rep for MHT Jeff Bailey hey aren’t these like? I did’nt even finish and I could see it in his face “Deer in the Headlights!”. Jeff left MHT shortly after so I don’t know if you see a pattern developing here. MHT’s Customer service is crap now or I should say Metal Motorsport because MHT sold off the motorcycle wheel division.

    So I guess in my long winded way what I am trying to say especially for the guys that say, “Just get over it!”. Imagine if you built a bike and put all your money into it and every badass idea you ever had and it and it gets ripped off. You go to buy your favorite motorcycle rag and on the front cover low and behold there’s your bike and it’s Bike of the Year, now what?
    Ego Tripp is really getting the shafted!
    If your gonna screw someone that hard the least you can do is kiss them on the lips!!!

    Mike Golden State Customs (Northern California)

  30. 30 UNCANNI Feb 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Hey Gang,

    Where has all the creativity gone in the industry gone, dose anybody have any original ideas left? For those of you who don’t, I encourage you to check out my designs at I have designed products for Kuryakyn, Dowco, Willie & Max, Arlen Ness, Ego Tripp, RC Components, Wiley X, and many others! I offer creative industrial design services reasonable price. Don’t copy call me!

    As for my dear friend and long time associate Greg Hove, he and his team at Ego Tripp are the tops in the industry for one off custom wheels; they have no equal in this niche. Ego Tripp wheels have graced many of my bike designs, such as Sick Bastards – Sir Lancelot, and Knockout Motorcycle Companies Rat Rocket, and Gunfighter builds. When only a one-off design and impeccable quality will do Ego Trip is the only place to go!

    As for thieves from Sucker Punch Sally, hang on and enjoy the ride while it lasts, because this year there will be a Knockout!

  31. 31 Leftcoast Feb 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Hey RollinPhat,

    Thats a great story coming from a guy who has taken credit for so many things you have stolen only to have others copy them for you. I had no idea who you were until I found who owns the image gallery you linked to.

    Glen tells me you are gong to start making copies of his raked trees soon…..congrats!

  32. 32 small-fry Feb 18th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Here’s the deal.

    If the economy was good, no one would be sayin a word. All you guys are going down and loosing your business due to the sluggish economy.

    Cry Cry Cry. looks to me like Renegade figured a way to stay above water. All you loosers didnt., now you want to bitch?

    Marketing is the way to the top, not one-off items. All the one-off deals are over, maybe we can learn from a guy like Renegade who knows his market, unlike all the rest of you that dont get the big picture.

    Why didnt these wheels get marketed like Renegade did, then you might have an argument, you baby’s. OH I made a balloon globe once in 3rd grade, I made it first, but Bobby made one too. it was my idea first. I like Coke, You like Pepsi, how many mountain bike company’s are out there, what about beer, what an original idea………beer. Oh and tires, man there are just too many round black things out there, lets sue over round black things…….lets not forget milk companys, or ice cream company’s……….way too many “original” ideas out there guy’s………JUST SHUT UP ALREADY

    Get back to work and find the next big thing, and stop writing on this blog, it dont help you make a living.

    Wake up america!

  33. 33 Greg Hoeve Feb 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    I find it telling that those among us “WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN THE INDUSTRY” seem to have no problem publicly stating their name, which company they represent etc., while standing in moral support of what is right. In the mean time, those who decry our motivations seem all to willing to hide behind pseudonyms and “handles”. Who the hell are you guys anyway? Why the heck should anyone participating in an intellectual property rights discussion give any consideration to your point of view? What have any of you got to lose? Grow some balls and state you name. Do you lack the courage of your convictions?

    Like I stated earlier in this thread, I expect to make as many enemies as friends as a result of my post, but at least I got a pair. I’m not taking cheap ass pot shots from the dark corners and then running off to hide in my hole. Man up and take ownership of your opinion and then maybe at least I and some others can respect you for THAT.

    In the mean time, I am hard at work. My business was up over 10% last year in gross volume and we more than doubled our net profit. We are up, way up, compared to Q1 numbers from last year right now and I see no end in sight. I am actually acquiring additional CNC equipment and hiring operators at this moment to handle the increases we are experiencing. As for the ONE OFF DEALS BEING OVER, not in my neck of the woods buddy. I have loads of it. Beggars can’t be choosers, BUT I CAN!

    Good luck getting a job at WallMart. I hear they are opening up a chopper supply division. Maybe you should apply.

  34. 34 Greg Hoeve Feb 18th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    P.S. I love fuckin’ with you guy’s. I got a hard on for it. It adds a sparkle to my day to see how tweeked you can get. LOL

  35. 35 MIKEOUT Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    You are the man!!!


  36. 36 Jeff Nicklus Feb 19th, 2009 at 6:18 pm



    Over & Out,


  37. 37 A 1 cycles Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:35 pm


  38. 38 Brian Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Mr. Hoeve,

    I am trying to find a contact number or valid email for your company Ego Tripp. My business is interested in some wheels from your company.

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