Ride An Indian Chief For Free During 6 Months

indiamotorcyclefreedomtoridegoodThis is the time of the year when all automotive dealers try to get rid of their 2009 models to make room for the 2010. And they will do anything, almost, to make space in their showrooms. No exception at Indian Motorcycle. Purchase a 2009 Indian Chief and they will pay your first 6 months loan payments. And if you intend to pay cash, negotiate, negotiate, negotiate…This offer is good until September 30th and the limit taken in charge by Indian is up to $500 per month. At participating Indian Motorcycle dealerships.

23 Responses to “Ride An Indian Chief For Free During 6 Months”

  1. 1 Rodent Aug 22nd, 2009 at 8:21 am

    Yeah, they’ll do anything to dump the wanna be Indians….Indian died in 1953..RIP already

  2. 2 bigalyts Aug 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    One thing about you Rodent, You are the most NEGATIVE COCKSMOOCHER, I have heard on Cyrils Web Site! You should wish you could Build a Bike that Rides as well and is Half as dependable as an Indian. I am not an Indian Owner either.You probably are a Hard Tail Dood!

  3. 3 Mike Kiwi Tomas, Kiwi Indian Motorcycles Aug 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I’m looking forward to Chris from Indian coming through on a test ride of a Chief. I’ll put some good miles on it through Death Valley and from what I’ve heard I’ll be enjoying it. Don’t me wait too long mate as I’m chomping at the bit

  4. 4 INDIAN RIDER Aug 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 am

    Yeah no shit Rodent! you are one negative more than likely Harley Rider… if anything a knucklehead… and yes i meant that as a bike and YOU

  5. 5 Rodent Aug 23rd, 2009 at 9:22 am

    All your comments ain’t going to bring back the dead, Indian R.I.P.

  6. 6 Rodent Aug 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    When I was a kid I watched John Wayne kill Indians on the silver screen. I saw the Lone Ranger and his faithful Indian, Tonto on the little screen. Growing up in the East The only exposure I had to Indians was from book, film and TV. I hadn’t even heard about the Springfield Indian.
    After moving to San Francisco during the Summer of Love my Indian awareness was developed.
    Laurie, my wife and I took many trips to the great Southwest during our California days. Went across US66 through Arizona and the Navaho and Hopi reservations, went to Acoma Sky City and many of the pueblos along the Rio Grande Eventually we visited Taos and saw the oldest condominium in the world that’s still occupied to this day. I met many Indians of the two legged variety
    Lived in Sausalito during the days of the Indian takeover of Alcatraz. Started to understand about the mystique of the Indian from Springfield, Mass.
    Let us jump forward a bunch of years and I was living in New Mexico and met a guy who hustled sheepskins for car seats in Albuquerque. I spent a pleasant afternoon on the patio of Ogilvives Bar in Taos one warm afternoon. He mention that he was thinking of resurrecting the dead Springfield Indian and it just went in one ear and out the other. Just bar talk.
    Months later I hear on the grapevine that somebody in New Mexico was working on reviving the Indian. He was among others who were running their mouths about Indian. I still didn’t pay much attention, after all we had the SUPERVEE to laugh at.
    Now we come to Sturgis, South Dakota in the summer of 1992 and its August in Sturgis means Black Hills Rally.
    At that time Hells Angels Oakland Chapter President, Sonny Barger is in the Fed Pen in Arizona finishing up his sentence. He’s due to get out in November 1992. His wife Sharon is in Sturgis selling Support shirts to raise funds.
    I met Sharon and we talked and I shot some images,, including one image that was later used in a full page advertisement for Sonny’s Welcome Home Party to be held that November.
    Couple of days later Sharon says to me, “Rodent, you live in New Mexico, know anything about this guy who’s going to build Indians in Albuquerque?
    I said that I knew the guy slightly and Sharon asked me if I would look into the deal as Sonny Barger, the spiritual leader of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club was interested in perhaps obtaining a dealership upon his release from Federal Prison.
    I said sure it would be no problem as I was living in ALBUQUERQUE at the time and it would be my pleasure to check out Indian Motorcycle Manufacturing Inc. and its owner Wayne Bachman and I thought I would even get material for a story. Sharon gave me Sonny’s address in the joint and asked me to write him directly with the results of my inquiry.
    I think it was late Aug. or early Sept that I first stopped by the IMMI offices that were located in the back of WAX-RITE SHEEPSKIN CO. on San Mateo NE at the end of a strip mall. Pistol Petes Pizza was on one end and Wax-Rite was on the other end.
    I stopped in and Wayne Bachman greeted me with open arms and gave me the grand tour and explained the project. I listened very carefully. Now Wayne knew I worked for a Motorcycle rag and I let on that I was interested in doing a feature on Indian Motorcycles being resurrected in the Land of Entrapment in the heart of Indian culture.
    Wayne, of course came all over himself thinking about all the publicity he was going to get from the worldwide distribution of an article about his project in SUPERCYCLE. He didn’t know that this was a duel purpose mission.
    and of course I never told him.
    At that time I had to make a very careful analysts of the situation. Wayne was asking 25K for a dealership and I sure didn’t want to make the wrong reconmendation to Sonny Barger, founding father of the Hells Angels.
    I took a roll of pictures using negative film as I knew I had to send Sonny copies along with my recommendation. Wayne laid this bullshit trip about building the new Indian motorcycle. The more I listened the more Wayne sounded like a snake oil salesman. But I just went along with him and when I left he said that he’d keep me informed of progress.
    I left and sat down and reviewed the bullshit story I had heard from Wayne and weight it against the probabilities of IMMI producing salable Indian Motorcycles in the foreseeable future. then wrote Sonny a letter with pictures of IMMI’s operation and at that time I recommended that Sonny NOT invest in IMMI because it sounded like fraud and a flimflam scam.
    Little did I know at that time I was 110% on the money, but I did feel comfortable with my decision.
    Many weeks later as we were driving out of ALBUQUERQUE on I 40 headed to a run I heard a news flash that their had been a fire at Wax-rite Sheepskin, AKA IMMI and arson was suspected. We were on our way out of town so my inquires about the fire would have to wait until my return.
    Upon my return to Albuquerque I stopped by IMMI on San Mateo in the strip mall to find out “what the fuck?”. Wayne was in the process of assessing damage and he said the fire didn’t do much damage to the project and didn’t hurt the one prototype which was just a rolling chassis.
    Then he said the fire was caused by Molatov Cocktails which were tossed through a front window into the sheepskin part of the place. And it was covered by insurance.
    I asked if he had any ideas who had done the dastardly deed and he said it was probably somebody connected to the Harley-Davidson Motor Company! He thought that they were worried about the competition he might give them!
    He even went so far as to mention a vendor to the Harley-Davidson Co. that lived in the area and was under suspicion, and being investigated by the ATF.
    But Wayne said they were going full steam ahead to get ready for the dealer introduction coming up. There would be signed up dealers from all over the world and I was’t invited to come and cover the extravaganza The pre introduction hype started with major stories in the business section of both ALBUQUERQUE daily papers, the Journal and the Tribune. Also the local TV stations carried a clip of a large crate being off loaded from a jet-freighter at ALBUQUERQUE INTL Airport. The crate had the Indian logo on it and IMMI stenciled prominently on its side.
    The first day of the intro I showed up at Wax-rite Sheepskin and Indian Motorcycle Manufacturing Inc. in the strip mall with Pistol Petes Pizza bright and early. The tents were set up in the parking lot and inside the World Hdqtrs of IMMI a table was set up with T-shirts being hustled to the invited guests.
    Off to the side on a platform was a covered object which was the brand new Indian Motorcycle manufactured by Wayne Bachman Company IMMI.
    I cornered Wayne and asked him at that time whether he was going to start the new Indian for his assembled dealer investors , He said, HE COULD NOT START IT AS THERE WERE A FEW PARTS MISSING!!.
    The thing was unveiled to much fanfare and bullshit as the TV News cameras ran their tape. The assembled Oh’d and awed and then it was discovered that the engine in the new revolutionary Indian Motorcycle was made of WOOD.
    No wonder Wayne told me earlier it wouldn’t start. The only way that mother fucker would start was with lighter fluid. It was a wooden FUCKIN Indian!!
    That evening there was to be a gala party at a local restaurant and I showed up and got involved in a major discussion about wooden Indians, fraud, flimflam and outright lies.
    Wayne at that time still didn’t realize that I had caught him in a pack of lies. At the party the soundtrack from the movie The Sting would have been most appropriate!!
    The next morning I arrived at the IMMI strip mall extravaganza only to be accosted by Wayne’s lovely wife who started screaming at me and said Wayne wanted to talk to me but he was meeting with his staff of engineers at Sandia Labs and I would have to talk on the phone with him, which I did.
    He cursed me, called me a traitor, I wasn’t part of his team, and a bunch of other printable that I can’t remember.
    I was summarily 86’d from the Wax-Rite Sheepskin parking lot in the strip mall The shame of it all!!
    The next incident was at Sturgis that August. Wayne Bachman was sponsoring a deal for real Indian Motorcycles at the Sturgis fairgrounds during Bike Week.
    While we were hanging out at our luxurious quarters in Sturgis, Elliot, my editor from SUPERCYCLE Magazine and I discussed Wayne’s showing of the Wooden Indian at the fairgrounds. We decided to check it out. Now of course I didn’t want to show up with Elliot as Wayne had no idea who Elliot is, so he went alone and check out the Wooden Indian.
    In order to hype the 1st 4 Corners Rally on the Southern UTE Reservation in Ignacio, Colorado, United States Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell had invited IMMI to display the Indian at the rally. In all fairness to Ben I must say at the time that he invited Wayne to display his motorcycle he had no idea that it was a wooden engine fraud.
    I was at the rally on assignment from SUPERCYCLE and at the personal invitation of Senator Ben. When the IMMI truck arrived I was leaning against a fence observing some big breasted blond through the viewfinder of my Canon. As Wayne Bachman walked by me he started threatening me an calling me obscenities. causing me to lose the shot of the big breasted blond.
    I turned towards that piece of shit Wayne and told him to go fuck himself. All through the weekend Wayne and his sand-nigger thug just glared at me and tried to hustle Indian T-shirts while he proceeded to perpetrate his fraudulent wooden Indian on the sacred tribal lands of the Southern Utes.
    The next run in I had with the President of Indian Motorcycle Manufacturing Inc. was at the River Run in Laughlin, Nevada in April of 1994. I was there on assignment and staying as usual at the Pioneer Hotel & Casino
    . There were some activities at the Colorado Belle next door so I wandered over there and got involved with Vinnie Ultra and his harem that accompanies his Ultra-Harley that was set up in the parking lot. I was involved in a heated discussion with a couple of Vinnies models with big tits and skimpy bikinis when Wayne and his ugly wife Sharon wandered by and Wayne seeing me with the lovelies had to start running his shit
    infested mouth. He’ such an asshole. He didn’t have the wooden Indian on display . He was probably afraid of perpetrating a fraud in the State of Nevada but he was trying to promote his upcoming INDIAN RALLY to be held on the New Mexico State Fairgrounds in Albuquerque that summer.
    As I have stated IMMI was advertising the 1st all INDIAN RALLY-and introduction of the wooden Indians next reincarnation, a RUNNING INDIAN at the New Mexico State FAIRGROUNDS. I didn’t expect to be an honored guest at this fiasco
    and I predicted problems with my First Amendment rights to cover this event that was open to the public at a state owned facility.
    To prepare for the war I went to the fairgrounds and spoke with Sam Hancock, State Fair Mgr. & Roger Beimer, Events Mgr.
    Incidentally, Roger who used to be a TV Anchor here in NM is the one who gave me the name “GONZO PHOTOJOURNALIST.”
    So anyhow I laid the trip about Wayne and IMMI on them, and explained I expected problems. I also contacted Gov. Bruce King a long time friend, since this was state property.
    Let the show begin, I was ready. Wayne had been advertising the Indian deal on the local classic rock station for a couple of weeks previous to the gig. I guess he didn’t get many prepaid registrants for his wooden Indian rally and wanted to get numbers in the gate to keep his vendors happy. So there was no entrance charge.
    I arrived on the fairgrounds with no opposition and ran a couple of rolls of film of the non-event and then just wandered around, waiting to see what would develop. I didn’t have a long wait.
    One of IMMI’s flacks Clay Douglas, who was fired shortly there after was acting as security director for the event. Well , he grabbed me and told me to leave. I said it was a public event open to the general public on state property and that he could go fuck himself.
    He got on his radio and called for fairground security. The state fairground has its own police force plus they hire and outfit called AKAL which is owned by the diaperheads Sikhs from Espanola, NewMexico. Since I had primed the bosses Sam and Roger of this exact scenario, security was expecting the call. A meeting was held with about 10 security people on guard. The participants were Clayton Douglas, who was Wayne Thug at the time, Sam Hancock’ Roger Beimer and of course yours truly.
    Clay stated that he wanted me removed from the premises for the past deeds done against IMMI, that I had bad mouthed WAYNE and his INDIAN and I wasn’t welcome cause I didn’t support their fraud on
    the American biker. At that moment my cellular phone rang a of all people to call, it was Elliot Borin my editor. I quickly explained what was happening and he said it was a great expose’ deserving of a Pulitzer and to get the story shipped to him ASAP
    I agreed that I had called IMMI a fraud, I discovered the Wooden Indian, I wrote the story and I SIGNED MY NAME TO IT., but it was a public event on state property and Gov. King, Sam and Roger had been made aware of this exact scenario.
    Sam Hancock made his ruling, He would support my First amendment right, he could not ask me to leave this public place because Wayne had a problem and I could stay and do my job!! I won, fuck you, Wayne, Sharon and Clay and IMMI. Thanks Gov. Sam, and Roger.
    I then left the Fairgrounds and went to HARLEY DAVEY’S annual party in Alamosa, Colorado to cover that gig and a little R &R.
    Wayne had advertised in his press release that he was going to ride this Indian from Albuquerque to Las Vegas Nevada to celebrate the opening of a Indian Dealership.
    Elliot of course assigned me to be across the street from IMMI at the appointed time with a long lens to record this happening and then tail Wayne riding the Indian out of town on I 40 and to photograph the bike being loaded in a trailer.
    Well the fraudulent, lying motherfucker never made the ride I suppose cause the piece of shit didn’t run.
    The next chapter in the adventure of fraud and IMMI takes us once again to Sturgis, SD in Aug.’94.
    Carl Smith AKA BIG DADDY RAT the founder and promoter of the World Famous Rats Hole Custom Bike Show at Daytona Bike Week & the Rats Hole Show in City Park in Sturgis had contracted with Wayne to have two running Indians at his Rats Hole Show.
    BDR had advertised this fact all over the world. I have known BDR for many years, in fact he’s appointed himself my BASTARD STEP FATHER. Shit I’m even in his will. When he’s happy with me I’m in for about $5.25, but every time he gets pissed he deducts a dollar or two, so I never know how I stand.
    Getting back to BDR & IMMI, when I arrive in Sturgis I tell BDR about Wayne being a fraud etc. and BDR having heard the same story in various places was worried whether the Indian was going to show
    . I said it won’t show and it didn’t run. I was half the last Sat of bike week is showtime at the infamous Sturgis City Park. Gone are the good old days with the Zucchini and cucumber show on top of a bus, gone are the all night drag races, gone are the shit house burning. It’s the Rats Hole Show. I put on my Staff Rats Hole Shirt, the same one I wore at the ALBUQUERQUE fairgrounds gig and head to City Park.
    Wayne and the IMMI trailer are there and BDR is relieved. He spots me with the staff shirt and has a shit-hemorrhage. “Get that fucking shirt off” he screams at me “your going to fuck up my show, BDR has a bigger ego that Wayne Bachman and this is his thing. Just then I run into Big Hughie Shwab, one of the finest custom bike builders in the world. I’ve known Hughie for years and we’ve partied at different runs all over the country. Hughie is driving an Official Golf Cart with Judges armband as he has worked these shows for BDR for many years. Hughie says get in we’ll go see the Indian . We drive to where the Indian is being pushed around by Wayne and his flunky. I shoot a bunch of pictures of Wayne pushing the non-running Indian around. He don’t say shit to me cause he sees 300+ pounds of Hughie with me.
    I’m done and take off to shot other more important real Indians at that show and at a thing they were having for real Springfield Indians at the convention Center.
    Later I’m back at our luxurious motel and Elliot shows up with an amazing revelation. Wayne and his flunky do know not know Elliot by sight, and as Elliot was examining the Indian at the show, he innocently asked Wayne why it wouldn’t run. WAYNE said “THE DOT HAD CALLED HIM THE WEEK BEFORE AND TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE FINED 100K if he STARTED THE ENGINE.
    What part of LIER, BULLSHIT ARTIST,FLIM-FLAM-FRAUD-BUNCO don’t you understand!!!!!!

    The End.


  7. 7 Rodent Aug 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Strike ONE Wayne Bachman ALBQ
    Strike TWO Rey Sotelo GILROY
    Strike THREE English owned N.C. Indian YOU’RE OUT!!!!!

  8. 8 INDIAN RIDER Aug 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Rodent… seemed like an interesting story till you used the term “sand nigger” then the rest of your story didn’t mean shit! Keep your nazi fuckin racist comments to yourself. This ain’t a forum for biker KKK dumb asses.. Cyril.. why would have you event let this guy tell his stupid story.. who cares really.. even if its true, i doubt Rodent would reveal his real name… You brave enough rodent? Whats your real FULL NAME………………….? would it be DUMBASS?

  9. 9 Rodent Aug 24th, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Indian RIder aka Tonto I inavertantly left the objectnable term in this story as I wrote it years ago before the muslim baby killer terrorists were our friends and I should have deleated it.

  10. 10 Lyle Aug 24th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    The story is true, or at least meshes with what I know. I had dealings with Wayne and fortunetly never gave the guy any money. I also know one of the consultant engineers involved. The engine was made of wood. I think the mock up bike ended up on ebay a couple of years ago. Fortunetly, Wayne has nothing (I hope) to do with the New Indian Company. But I think Rodent’s point is all the start ups and outright scams. Phillip Zenghi was another indian scammer. Remember him? At least the new company is manufacturing motorcycles. They might not be directly related to Springfield Indian and use an HD based design, but at least they are making bikes. I hope they continue so this vicious cycle won’t repeat…..

  11. 11 biker bob Aug 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Rodent,…. I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed that account of ” What really happened “. If the American public really knew the real start of most of these so called motorcycle companys and their founderds / owners, they’d shit their pants.

    Biker Bob

  12. 12 just my opinion Aug 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Aug 24th, 2009 at 8:38 am
    Indian RIder aka Tonto I inavertantly left the objectnable term in this story as I wrote it years ago before the muslim baby killer terrorists were our friends and I should have deleated it.

    so what your saying is you were a racist then, but your not now?
    So your also saying all muslims are baby killers? and terrorist?
    You calling indian rider “tonto” shows your mind and how it thinks. Good job at name dropping by the way. I am sure the people you claim to be friends with such as the Gov Bruce King would be very impressed to know you are using words like sand nigger in the same sentence as him being your friend. Nobody in their right mind, having a position in life such as governor would claim you as a friend. I would venture to guess that at least that part of your long winded story was fiction. Not sure if the rest of your story has any truth to it, but you have not done your self any real service by expressing those racist veiws of your.
    You should let us know what magazine you currently write for so that the sand niggers and diaper heads will know which magazine not to buy.

  13. 13 Greg Aug 24th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Occasionally, Rodent takes pictures and write (!?!?) (lot of proof-reading necessary) for Barnett magazine.

  14. 14 willie Aug 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Carl VERY INTERESTING STORY,I personally would love see Indian make it they are nice bikes , I really like the 2000 chiefs with the bullet prof S&S 88 inch motors .One thing I gotta say Carl you always say it like you see it lol any way you ever think of running for president . Damn a man that says it like he sees it ,SLOGAN SAVE AMERICA FROM SOCIALISM VOTE FOR CARL.

  15. 15 johnny Aug 24th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    rodent is everywhere. if you don’t know him or haven’t seen his murine-like face and body then you haven’t lived.

    he says what most think and are afraid to say. he is rodent.

    hiding only behind his lens and motorhome.

  16. 16 INDIAN RIDER Aug 24th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Rodent, what is your full name and what Magazine do you currently write for if any? Its very easy to hide behind this blog and talk your smack, but are you man enough to say who you really are?

  17. 17 willie Aug 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pm


  18. 18 Rodent Aug 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Being a Atheiest Jew I think I have the right to dislike arabs….Who is this idiot “indian rider”? Probably rides an Itlai-jet 50cc that was marketed with the Idian label years ago.

  19. 19 FUJI Aug 26th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    RODENT: I read your story some time ago and found it to be very interesting.

    Take the time to research the new owners of Indian before you try to elaborate on their well being and capabilities.

    Whether they make it or not, only time will tell, but the corporation is in very good hands of capable owners.

    Chris Craft boats were taken over by the same people and were doing very well until the bust.
    We are talking about people well versed on how to put a company on its feet.

    Several other projects that were taken over by this corp were made functional and profitable and then sold to other organizations.

    I can not say, but if and when Indian makes a profit one could only assume that it would be up for grabs and one could be certain that there would be several takers.

    I do remember that the corp wanted to build the Indian initially in the Sarasota/Manatee county area of Florida but no concessions were given by the county or state, so off they went to NC for where they received numerous concessions.

    My point is give credit where credit is due.

    Show us your capabilities in your trade, instead of a ditch digger for you are digging yourself into a hole and losing credibility .

    As the old guy said while in prison, gold is good and silence at times is golden. I wish you well.



  20. 20 Matt Aug 26th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I cant read his ramblings… Hey Rat, Sturgis was created by Indian riders. Like always Indian invented it. So once again your living on borrowed glory you unoriginal fool.

    Atheist Jew?… So you’re not a Jew?
    Pick something and stick with it besides crack… I wouldn’t suggest Indian for you that shit is way to heavy for you son.

  21. 21 INDIAN RIDER Aug 27th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Funny that he calls me Idiot in the sentence right before he misspells “Idian”

  22. 22 INDIAN RIDER Aug 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Oh and by the way, you still didn’t say your Athiest Jew name.. what was it again? “Ding”? Last name “Dong”?

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