New Motorcycle Central Brake Wheel System

This one coming from Italy by a company called Brakko. Better than a long speech, and although titles are in Italian, this very good video animation clearly explains how it is conceived, installed and disassembled. Your thoughts?  (I know, music sucks)

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19 Responses to “New Motorcycle Central Brake Wheel System”


  1. 1 burnout Apr 9th, 2010 at 7:43 am

    VERY COOL video. Super cool brake system. Music isn’t THAT bad! peace

  2. 2 maroco Apr 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Can someone explain what is the diferences beethwen this system and one other that appears at this blog some time ago?

  3. 3 Seven Apr 9th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Maroco, The Brakko has been around much longer than the other US made one, AFAIK just someone at Brakko forgot to patent it in the US. So now there are two companies doing the same brake design.

    I am sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken.

  4. 4 Bobfather Apr 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Nice animation on the video. Looks like a very innovative braking system. BTW, Cyril, not a Pink fan? Music isn’t all that bad.

  5. 5 1550tc Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Nice animation on the video and yeah the music is distracting hope these dudes dub this with an english voice over

    Cyril

    (I know, music sucks)

    I am not a pink fan but here a wayway better song and smoking hot visuals of Fergie

    Tiger should have just banged her and saved himself a ton of grieve

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4vsh1zDA

  6. 6 maroco Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Thank´s for the response Seven, it make sence.

  7. 7 Mike Apr 9th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Something strange here…

    Very well done animation video… someone spent a LOT of time on that, and the parts are obviously modeled in 3D “for real”.

    But if they have real parts, why not show real parts? Why only an animated video? I’d love to see this on a sportbike, a cruiser… anything. I think it would add a lot.

    Second, I have no doubt they didn’t get permission to use the song in their video… what kind of real company doesn’t give a shit about copyrights and infringement? Don’t they know? Or don’t they care? It’s not like it’s an obscure song from the 60’s – it’s a major hit.

    The system is clearly almost identical to the one shown here recently. So the question is, who copied who? Rip-off artists are scum and lower than whale shit… so who was the originator and who was the copier? Inquiring minds want to know.

  8. 8 Cyril Huze Apr 9th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Saw videos of several bikes running with the “Combined Wheel Brake” from Brakko. So, it could not have been conceived very recently. One of these bikes is featured on their site at http://www.brakko.com.

  9. 9 Ray Apr 9th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    It seems to me that the American version Cyril featured before and presented at the Fenruary Dealer Expo in Cincinnati is a copy of the Italian version. Let’s now wait for a reply from these american “inboard brake” inventors.

  10. 10 Seven Apr 9th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    To qualify my previous comment.

    Here is the Belgium Brakko patent application dated May 2000, long before any development work was started on the US made version. Sorry, it is in French.

    http://epatras.economie.fgov.be/DisplayPDF/ExtraData/FR/616/107926.pdf

  11. 11 Mike Apr 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Well well well…

    I just did a little web searching. Glenndyne is the company who showed off their internal brake at the V-Twin expo. When you look at their site, it is pretty much identical to Brakko’s. Even the wheel design and spoke shape and layout is virtually identical.

    So given Brakko has a patent that goes back to ’00, it would seem that Glenndyne has some explaining to do.

    On their website, Glenndyne says they have “multiple patents in the works”. I sure hope they are not thinking of patenting Brakko’s internal wheel in the USA, as taking someone else’s EU patent and patenting it in the USA would be even lower than whaleshit.

    And whomever the original inventor of this product is should look into WIPO laws, because AFAIK there is some mutual protection between EU and US patents, and it may not be as clear cut as the infringer thinks.

  12. 12 Vision Apr 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    The system looks great for a production bike but who is going to want to change out their wheels and fork arms to use a brake?

  13. 13 maroco Apr 10th, 2010 at 3:48 am

    I belive there are no problem law in this. Like Seven saied Brakko don´t protect the patent at U.S.A,
    So others can do “similar” in other country, under license or not, it´s “ligitimate”.
    In this days we can see lots of patents in motorcycles and cars that are the same whit no problems
    some are “infringements” others are deals, licences, agremments or partnerships etc.
    (my opinion/not an expert).

    All the best

  14. 14 Seven Apr 10th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    I don’t know patent law at all, but I googled the US patent search service.

    Turns out I was wrong, there is a US patent pending on it , filed by Brakko way back in 1995, a whole 15 years ago and with 10 more years to run. I guess there really is not that much new under this sun. Saves a fortune developing new ideas, just go through the patent archives and copy any ideas you like. stick your own name on, claim to be the inventor and profit.

    http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=X_IhAAAAEBAJ&dq=brakko

  15. 15 Iron Horse Apr 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    While it looks like a neat concept and cleans up the outside wheel area, it looks like they are putting severe torsional loads on the axle. I don’t claim to be an engineer or an expert by any means, just my observation of the way things look.

  16. 16 Aaron Glenn Apr 11th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I started work on the internal brake concept 6 years ago and filed for multiple U.S. patents to protect my design. When we were awarded the patents 3 years ago,to our knoledge no one else had done anything like this. As my patent attorneys found nothing in the U.S archives. I later found out about the Brakko set up after we went into production vis my own random internet searches. To my knowledge their system dosen’t appear to be for direct bolt on applications(stock motorcycles.) I never pruseed overseas patents (big pain and costly) and even if someone or a company “coppied the design” good luck flying all around the world to fight the legal battle. I did what we all thought was the smartest Protect it in the U.S. Thats where I live and thats where I want to display my efforts. I have no knoledge about the other system or when it was invented. If it was before mine, then as the old adage say’s “great minds think alike”. lets just say the U.S is Glenndyne’s turf. Thanks to everyone for there support and we look forward to seeing every one at the next venue.

    Sincerely Aaron Glenn@glenndynedesign.com

  17. 17 Aaron Glenn Apr 11th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    I just reviewed briefly the document links posted above. And it does appear that the brakko company came up with the concept first. All I can say is congratulations to them! And from this point on I will always admit to that. I can however say honestly I came up with what I thought was new. It was to us and I thought the world. We were still awarded the utility patent (the hardest to get) for our design. So it appears our system is different in some way, enough for it to be published here in the U.S. During the applaction process we never had one dispute or challenge. But believe me I will notify my Attorney’s of this matter and keep everyone posted. I hope the readers understand that Glenndyne would not have placed this much time, money and effort into something that we didn’t believe in 100% to be our own. I won’t even copy a paint job! I respect the work of all builders/inventors and people for that matter. If we thought there was a patent it would not have been worth the risk!

    sincerely,

    Aaron Glenn apparently the second inventor of the internel brake concept. it is what it is!
    see ya down the road somewhere……….sometime………

  18. 18 American-V magazine Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Very interesting, elegant design: good luck with it because you’ll need it – the tyranny of the status quo will protect the existing solutions because there’s such a vested interest in them. If Buell couldn’t manage to convince people with a production system that was fitted to a couple of generations of streetbikes, I don’t hold out a lot of hope, because this makes the relatively simple ZTL more complicated, kicks it out of the air-stream, introduces a whole new axle system and seems to put a lot of faith on two calipers on a single rotor producing the same braking effect as two separate one.

    Can’t see how it won’t overheat without fitting some serious channelling/ducting rather than relying on the wind disruption on the trailing edge of the forks to feed a cooling breeze.

    Keep it up though: got to keep fresh ideas coming through, otherwise we might just miss the big one.

  19. 19 Matt May 21st, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Looks like a cool concept, the price is a little high thow per tire.

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